Sunday, April 26, 2009

Martial Arts in the Olympics v.2.0?

What do you think about taking Judo, TKD and other martial arts and combining them into a martial arts category like gymnastics?





It would be organized like a martial arts tournaments with categories like forms, point sparring, grappling, etc. Each country would field a team that would accumulate points from each category and individual as well as team medals would be awarded.





I've been thinking about this for a while, but I'd like to hear from 'the community'. We could start a petition.

Martial Arts in the Olympics v.2.0?
That was the first thing I thought when I heard they were considering putting karate in the Olympics. For all purposes related to awarding points, karate and tae kwon do are the exact same thing; why make them different categories? That's just going to confuse people about the differences between styles.





It would indeed make more sense to have Martial Arts--wrestling, forms, and point sparring.
Reply:don't like it
Reply:They should host a Kumite style tournament in the Olympics. No particular style or form of martial art (just no weapons). Weight classes optional.
Reply:Doesn't interest me at all.


Martial arts.?

I have started Kung Fu Training in Slovenia. Problem is that is 2 time on week. And of course i want in future to go in London but can anyone tell me good Martial Arts clubs in London (more than 2 time on week if possible) ?





Tnx in advance.





(sorry for non perfect english)

Martial arts.?
Do a yahoo search for MMA gym london or a boxing gym
Reply:I cant reall answer your question, but watch a lot of kung fu movies, and try (without hurting yourself) to practice some of the moves, or practice the stuff you learned everyday. remember to be proficient "practice your form a thousand times a day - chinese saying


Martial Arts?

what martial arts involves grappling...is it judo or ju jitsu?

Martial Arts?
Man people need to quit spouting BS from the "Human Weapon" show...





Both involve grappling.





Judo is more focused on the grappling aspect then Jujitsu.(classical Japanese Jujitsu I am speaking about)





Jujitsu is focused on weapons, striking, movements done while wearing armor, and utlizing swords. It has throws, joint locks and chokes in it, but are generally not sparred or spent a great time emphasizing. Kind of an all around Martial Art, a little bit of everything.





Judo is grappling pure and simple, from standing up, closing the distance, clinching, throwing, controlling on the mat, pins, joint locks, chokes, the works. Judo encompasses all areas of grappling. More specialized, focused only on grappling aspect.








Now Brazilian Jiujitsu- (which many people lately seem to just call Jujitsu which is wrong) is focused mainly on the mat, or ground. They are more specialized then Judo, as they don't spend a whole lot of training on the stand up portion of grappling. They work primarily on the ground, therefore are very, very good in a matwork situation. Very specialized, work primarily on the ground aspect of grappling.





Hope that helps you out, any of those arts are great to check out.





(above poster, learn history before spouting off something from a TV show notorious for fudging up historical facts to make it seem more dramatic, you are even messing it up more)





Admiral Perry's defeat of the Japanese only showed the antiquated ways of the Samurai, it was years later that there was a decree the removed them from a higher state of class, and they were not allowed to wear their swords in public. They still trained in Jujitsu, Iado, horsemanship, archery and the like, they weren't in hiding, they just were not allowed to wear swords in public, be the only armed force of the Japanse, and execute commoners for disrespecting them.





Judo originated from a Jujitsu practioner Jigaro Kano (whose father was no where related to Samurai, and he himself had no ties to former Samuraiship) who took it the art to a new level, incorporate new techniques and focused only on the grappling work, and changed throws so that they were not done with armor in mind, and added more principles of leverage. Judo continues to evolve.





BJJ originated from Judo, as Mitsuyo Maeda (a Kodokan, Kosen Judo style Judoka) taught Carlos Gracie (who in turn taught it to Helio and so on.





Just a little bit of history for ya...





Good luck!
Reply:Jujitsu, for the most part definately involves grappling...though there may be some types of judo that involve grappling. If not any other arts.
Reply:both, along with akido, and karate, kung fu, etc. all hand to hand martial arts with few exceptions involve grappling, as well as contact blows.
Reply:jujitsu is the martial art that involves primarily grappling and throwing.
Reply:both, but judo is more of a take-down/throwing and jiu jitsu is more of on the floor grappling.still though, judo has ground fighting and jiu jitsu got its take-downs
Reply:Both, judo was taken from jujitsu.
Reply:Both,Jujitsu was developed after the defeat of the Japanese to Admiral Perry.The Masters hid and devised Jujitsu instead of the traditional Judo.
Reply:both, actually


Martial arts?

considering martial arts, isnt it true that hard work beats natural born talent

Martial arts?
somewhat you can teach your muscles anything but if you have more fast twich muscles then you will be able to do the motion faster. but with out the hard work and practice natural talent doesnt go very far.
Reply:More than hard work or talent, your spirit, the power within, your will-power is the one that helps you grow as a martial artist. The spirit needs to be nurtured and trained; then, once you become strong mentally and spirirually, you will be able to overcome any physical limitations, with time. Definitely a great idea to get involved with Martial Arts, just make sure you pick the one most suitable for your type of body %26amp; personality...
Reply:maybe.... Seriously I dont' know, but I liked your other question about your favorite weapon.

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Martial Arts?

I was just curious,





My uncle studied White Dragon Kung Fu under Grandmaster Pai Lum for many years, and Ive kinda been thinking of maybe starting something with martial arts. The problem?:





I don't know which would appeal to me most. I am also looking for something practical. I was thinking one of the folllowing would prolly be the most practical:





Wing Chun, Muay Thai, JuJitsu, or judo.





I'm really not sure, any ideas? I'm looking for somethign that would translate well into a possible real-world conforntation.





I was thinking maybe Muay Thai, but there's not ground fighting, so maybe JuJitsu or Judo? idk, Help! lol





Thanks!!!

Martial Arts?
Jujutsu. Choose a good school. It's a well rounded martial art that will teach you strikes, kicks, throws, joint locks. It has good self defense and practical applications. Yes fights end up on the ground but it's nice to know how to avoid getting there in the first place. Yoshinkan Aikido is also awesome but it takes a lot longer to be competent at it. Since they complement each other so well a cross training of both is probably your best bet.
Reply:You are welcome. God luck! Report It

Reply:take jiu jitsu, 90% of fights wind up on the ground and you want to be able to do something when it gets there
Reply:i think white dragon is very practical but if u want something practical without all the forms take muay thai. wing chun is not purley practical. i wouldnt take american boxing and muay tai is the best because its kickboxing with the elbows and knees which is the most important.





also as a secondary take Brazilian jiu jitsu because it is very effective and its very important to fight on the ground.
Reply:Remember its not so much the system that is not practicle its the training, if you go to a JKD school they learn Wing Chun but they dont just go through the motions, they grab some gloves and test it in full contact, that how they are able to take what works and get rid of what doesnt





Muay Thai is great and so are both BJJ and Judo, Wing Chun... maby better to find a JKD school instead
Reply:Japanese jujitsu.
Reply:As any true martial artists know, the quality and frequency of your training will far outweigh the style you train in.


Look for a good school not a good style.





If your uncle trained under Pai Lum ask him to train you.
Reply:Judo. My dad says that when he was (i think) in Graduate School, that he actually HAD to use it in a fight(he didn't pick fights).
Reply:Research! Try different styles, most schools allow you to try the class. Never agree to join the class that same day especially if they try to presure you into something. It's just like buying a car: don't get the first thing that comes along - it'll still be there the next day.


Most styles taught in the U.S. have no ground fighting unless you study the old school styles. For example muay thai does have ground techniques %26amp; several weapons systems but you will only see it if you watch footage of the monks in thailand.


Martial arts?

is there a type of karate/ martial arts that teaches self-defense using swords, long sticks, weapons like that? and where can i find a place like that? please answer these. oh yeah, if you have any experiences, please tell me about them

Martial arts?
This is going to take some research on your part.





Many arts teach solely weaponry, like Kendo, many arts include weaponry. The Kung Fu styles have much weaponry so, if you decide you wish this, I would suggest the Kung Fu styles first. However, if you choose a Kung Fu style, they are going to build you up in empty handed training first. They are going to make certain you have the maturity and skills before they start training in weaponry.





I had a short time in Kendo, not enough to have any skills. The only weapon I am well-trained in is the short staff. I received special training in this in my original art, which was for the vast most part an empty handed style, per my request of my Grandmaster.





Weaponry was not the focus of my training. Empty hand was.





If you have no weapons and are attacked, what do you do? Is it not wise to learn to handle yourself without a weapon?





Learn the weapons, yes. Learn empty handed as well. I would like to point out that a trained fighter can easily remove a weapon from an armed person. I am certain you can imagine what can occur after this.





From your question you do not appear, to me, to have done much research. Before you jump into an art, do some.
Reply:If you want to learn self defense, learn an empty handed style. If you are attacked, chances are you won't be holding a sword.
Reply:If I recall correctly, Karate basically means empty fist (it used to chinese fist or something like that, but the same word can be interpreted empty, and was changed as Karate became its own distinct style), so I would guess that most schools would focus more on empty hand techniques. Shaolin or the more showy Wushu kung fu trains in broadswords, straight swords, staffs, cudgels, 3 sectional staffs, kwandow (spelling?) and other weapons. I am currently studying broadsword, double broadsword, cudgel and staff.





good luck!





- baiguai


http://kungfu-artistry.com
Reply:kendo, bojutsu, naginatado?
Reply:you need to do a search for "Kempo" (or Kenpo). use of weapons, and open hand training.
Reply:self defense with a sword is much different that self defense with a long stick.





You don't need training to swing a baseball bat. You can study Kendo and fight with a shenai, but that doesn't translate to picking up a pipe on the street and using it. The weight is different. The grip is different, you won't be able to execute the techniques in exactly the same way.





There are schools that teach self defense using a cane. This can be carried with you, even on a plane (I didn't mean to make that rhyme). I always find that amusing that you can't bring a bottle of water, but you can bring a cane, crutches, and knitting needles.
Reply:I've been taking karate (shorinji ryo and shorin ryu) for nine years. With karate, though it means way of the empty hand, you also get to use weapons (in most styles). I personally love it and would recomend it to anyone interested in martial arts. Its a great style and lots of fun and hard work!
Reply:Once again people are confusing self defense with fighting. They are two different things. If you want to learn to fight, go to a bar, find the biggest guy in there and start talking trash about his mother. Do this again as soon as recover and repeat as often as you can. In six months you will be a really good fighter, or three months dead.





If you want to learn self defense, the first thing you need to do is put your brain into gear.





If you want to learn martial arts go to a martial arts school. But don't confuse them.


Martial Arts?

I was thinking about joining a martial arts scjool, and i have a few questions.


First, what is the difference between them all (such as karate, bjj.......). Also, which one do you think is the best, and reccommend i join?


Finally, does anyone know if there are any of these classes in, or near Liverpool


Thx

Martial Arts?
depends on what schools are around... oh and please completely ignore the chick who said tkd is "completely all around the best martial art" there issint a best.. they all have strong and weak points but ne ways





grapples and throws: aikido, judo, juijitsu, chi'na(chi'na is in alot of kung fu styles) southern kung fu, hapkido they have diffrent focusses even then though like... judo- body throws aikido- standing joint minipulation


new juijitsu styles- ground grapplin old juijitsu styles -aikido +judo hapkido- like aikido... with kicks and a bit of judo





strikes: karate, san shou, northern kung fu, muay thai





weapons: many arts teach a number of weapons but its kinda escrima/kali/arnis (filipino martial arts) thunder filipino martial arts also teach unarmed stuff (grapples and strikes) also the kung fu's weather or not they are northern or southern teach alot of weapons and strikes and grappling





eh w/e here are some links http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martial_art...





http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_mar...





and around you there will prabably be some japanese arts 2ndly... or bably mostly korean and then next likely filipino and chinese.. then various stuff like brazilian arts and other stuff... so thats what i would focus studyin... but just look around and see what there is then study up on those and check out the classes.. they should let you particapate for free a bit and if they try to put you on a contract or you see 7 year old black belts..... ey.. prabably avoid it ya mean.. and dont forget to train good hard and often :D
Reply:What are you looking for? for self defence, take BJJ, Judo or kickboxing. For fitness, pretty much any will do.
Reply:Best all around martial art is Tae Kwon Do. I suggest you find a traditional school and avoid the idiots who just want to pound the crap out of each other. Tae Kwon Do is a way of life, a sport, a fine art %26amp; a physical conditioner.


"Karate" is a generic term that simply translates to "empty hand".
Reply:James,





I went back and looked at your previous questions and notice that in the Wrestling category you asked earlier about joining a submission wrestling class.





Since you are interested in that, I would suggest you try Brazilian Jiu Jitsu. BJJ is very popular today and you can find a school just about anywhere and there is an almost inexhaustible supply of tournaments and fighting events where you can test your skills.





Have fun!
Reply:Hi. check out this site and the message board. There is a member on there from Liverpool that is highly respected in the Martial Arts community. His id is FREESTYLERUK and you can read a lot there about questions you have and even get quicker results on answers. http://www.angelfire.com/ab/vitamin/brot...
Reply:Schools are like cars; you may be able to find one that you like or several but its harder to find one that you really like and that may be close to you and cheap and has a good instructor. If you do-then count yourself lucky.


Now what to look for. Go and watch a class or two at each and keep in mind what your interests or desires while doing that. If for example it is competition or self-defense and you are considering a non-competition type school or one that has a weak self-defense program then you may not be very happy. Also look at how the instructors relate to students. Do they all get good instruction, attention, and time from the instructor or does just the cute blond in the class.


Talk to some of the students in the class one-on-one after their classes and see if you can get an honest opinion on the quality of their classes and instruction and are they happy with it and if so why. Keep in mind sometimes some schools offer "rewards" to students for recruiting new students.


If you shop around and take your time a little then before you know it there will probably be a school or two that you may decide is the right one for you and glad that you did not make a snap decision and join the first one that you may have had the bad luck to look at first.
Reply:The best is the 1 with the best instructor. It's the artist, not the art. Here is a brief summary:





Striking: Tae Kwon Do. Karate, Shaolin boxing


Good: Can handle multiple attackers, can engage at long range, enables you to be pro active when necessary.


Not so good: Ground, hard to control an attacker without inflicting serious injury.





Grappling: Hapkido, Judo, etc.


Good: effective in close, good on the ground, can control an attacker without inflicting serious injury.


Not so Good: Not good at long range, you must wait for the attacker to make the 1st move. Not effective against multiple attackers.


Martial arts?

i need a website that can tell me all the differnt styles of martial arts. and what they focus on.

Martial arts?
try this one





www.google.com
Reply:I'm not sure, but the style I take (Shotokan) is the most traditional of all of them. If you wanted to find a website about it, or another style you could probably google it, or use dogpile.com (a very good search engine).
Reply:karate is awesome btw!! But they all have good and bad points, and it depends on the club and what you want to get out of your training. The site is in the sources below.
Reply:I've looked at many websites over the years, and by far the best one (although not perfect) is wikipedia. Start here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martial_art...


, then navigate where neccesary in wikipedia, then move to more particular websites as you determine your direction. Finally, you'll really not realize what the differences until you realize it...i.e. get some experience.
Reply:there isn't a one website that will give you great details on every martial art. There are so many and the good ones will have a great history. Just look it up on google

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Martial arts?

If you could learn any martial arts what would it be and why?


If i were to do one, would they put me in a "beginner" class or somfin?

Martial arts?
I have learned karate since I was 11 years old, I think karate is the best martial art and the most original martial art in the world





I also like physics, I have read a book about karate and physics. I found that every move of karate have explanation in physics.





In my opinion, karate have so much power, even if you are a small person, you can take down a bigger person then you with your karate.





I learn karate because it was my hobby...... of course you must start from the beginner
Reply:ive done many kinds of martial arts like drunken man kung fu and chun kuk do karate and i like kung fu better because drunken man is a really fun style to learn and of course all martial arts put you as a begginer when you first start out
Reply:In my opinion, Hapkido is the most efficient and simple. It is known as not being too complicated, and it involves a lot of wrist twists to bring your opponent to the floor instantly. That it the basics of it, and once you have them on the ground, you basically win any fight. It is more of a traditional Taekwondo altered for street fights and practical situations. I would even describe it as a more intense Systema.


It is even very easy to start up because you don't need to be any sort of flexible, it just uses your opponents momentum and joint locks to flip them. Strength is not a necesity, but it will help.





Here's a rather cool video showing the intensity and speed of getting your opponent on the floor:





http://youtube.com/watch?v=yalIg2l1XxM
Reply:There are several good martial arts systems. I favor two. Tae Kwan Do, and Wing Chun Kungfu. They are the ones I know the most about. From observing other arts and having trained many students by far Tae Kwan Do is the fastest most proficient system of martial arts. Wing Chun is the most formidable and takes the longest and most dedication to become proficient.


Any art must be followed for at least black belt level to be effective. Not every art is suitable for everyone. We are all different physically and psychologically. Without knowing you personally I could not say what would be good for you.


What ever you choose will require commitment to that art sufficient to bring out the best you have to give to it.
Reply:ok, im ten, im a purple stripe, and i do tae kwon do, judo, and okinowan kobudo. in my school, there is black belt team one, black belt team two, and black belt team three, then the blackbelts. each of these are different belt levels, and therefore different classes. some classes are combind with each one. bbt 1 is no belt to green, bbt 2 is purple to blue stripe, and bbt 3 is red to brown double stripe. blackbelts are just any blackbelts. anyone can do sparing though. thats where u put on pads, and masks and stuff, then u fight. there are rules. but ya, u would be put in a beginner class, but u wouldnt be in a different school.
Reply:I have studied karate, wing chun, and most recently brazilian jiu jitsu. I feel BJJ is the best for me, you can practice almost full power without injury and its been proven against many other martial arts.
Reply:First of all by saying the word somfin you would be the resident punching dumbie " because that is what you sound like " feel me?





Yes you begin at the beginning and work your way up that's simply how it is and should be you shouldn't be a concert pianist because your father was a piano mover right?
Reply:MIXED MARTIAL ARTS IS THE BEST 2 LEARN BY FAR


SIMPLY BECAUSE YOU LEARN WHAT WOULD BE BEST IN A REAL LIFE SITUATION
Reply:i would learn sanda...because its really effective...watch it on youtube...just type in sanda and u will be amazed at how many other martial arts went up against it and lost...
Reply:I would either learn Drunken Monkey Kung Fu, Tai Chi or Jeet Kune Do





Drunken Monkey Kung Fu - reason is because it sound so cool I mean how cool does it sound DRUNKEN MONKEY KUNG FU !!!!! (I'm drunk leave me alone)





Tai Chi - reason it's slow, fluid and calm movements hides the fact that it can be an incredible deadly and brutal art.





Jeet Kune Do - Because of the philosophy that it teaches.
Reply:Japanese JuJitsu or Muay Thai Kickboxing





They are the best for self defence





and will get you bloody fit....especially muay thai
Reply:I have studied martial arts my whole life and right now i am studying combat and goishin jujtsu which are very strict and very military and very brudal arts. But if i could choose to learn anything it would be wing chung ,


Martial Arts???

I want to learn how to do martial arts but I don't want to take classes. I can't seem to find any good dvd's on it. Does anyone know where I can get one?

Martial Arts???
Hey dude,





Most martial arts styles will have an instructional DVD that you can get, and don't listen to these other people telling you what to do, they're trying to put their priorities on to you. You don't have to make martial arts your number one priority in life if you don't want to, granted that you will become a much better practioner of you do... But who cares? It's your life live it for you.





In fact I think that this might even be a better idea to start with, it might help you find a style that you like, try a bunch of different DVDs if you like. At the end of the day in a class you can't ask your teacher to stop, rewind, pause, mute or come home with you, so get your DVDs and just do it man, many people will spend thousands on classes and not learn a thing, going to class doesn't get you good, training does.
Reply:You can't really learn martial arts from DVD's alone. If you don't want to take classes, you shouldn't bother trying to learn.
Reply:why only martial arts?why dont you do an online brain surgery or rocket science course?you wont find a good dvd or online course because they dont exist.i suggest you get a brain get of your *** and put your hand in your pocket and pay to learn like everyone else, tightwad.you cant learn from a dvd or online course,there pure and simply about money,them making it and you giving it to them for nothing.how do you know if your doing it wrong?do you think the dvd can see you and say hey you thats wrong?like i said grow a brain.
Reply:yes at any dvd store thy all will seem the same?
Reply:Go to MMA Drills, they have alot of information and training program on DVDS. www.mmadrills.com
Reply:Sorry, let me explain the response you received. You are asking people who are very dedicated Martial Artists, who learned their Art through countless hours of expensive training in the studio, how you can do the same thing online for free.





Don't you see how that can be taken as offensive?





It sounds like you are saying we are all stupid, because we couldn't figure out how to do it for free.





Believe me, if it could be done any other way it would be. It can't.





Probably the least expensive way to learn Martial Arts is at the YMCA. Sometimes they even offer scholarships for lower income people who qualify.
Reply:you idiot the only way to learn martial arts is by training with a qualified instructor. but if you want to learn fast, take Hwar Do. you can become a black belt in two years. it is a combination martial art that unifies tea kwon do, karate, kung fu, kick boxing, akido, judo, and weapons. enjoy.
Reply:You can't learn properly from a video, you need an instructor and sparring partners to learn, if you really want to get serious about learning then forget about the hummer and take martial art classes, hummers are expensive to insure, and have poor gas mileage (gas is going up by the way), and are not cheap cars, so you have to think about a sacrifice.





p.s. don't mind the mean assholes here, you are asking because you want to know about a subject, people's opinions are irrelevant, as long as you get useful information you'll be fine.





Good luck my friend!
Reply:Pay for lessons %26amp; forget the Hummer. All they do is waste a lot of gas.
Reply:If you want to pursue martial arts, I highly recommend making it a top priority. That would include taking the money you have for a gas guzzling hummer, and putting it towards an excellent school and just walking to work, and class. However, thats hardcore dedication right there, something you probably don't have.





You can also learn some things from watching different training videos and real fights. Former UFC Champion Tito Ortiz started out just watching fights and then practicing what he saw in the videos. And look at how well he was throwing kicks at Chuck Liddel in his last fight! Kidding; he was throwing kicks like a little kid, and they were completely innefective. But seriously though, Tito is a former champion, but over the years he has done alot more than training with videos.
Reply:You'll need to practice (hundreds of times) and learn physical techniques as well as theological aspects of martial arts. A good book to start with is "Karate-Do: My Way of Life" by Gichin Funakoshi. It gives a background of martial arts and goes into the etiquette of being a karate student. As for the physical part, I don't reccomend learning that from a book. If you can't afford to take a class, a DVD is the next best thing. Choose something that's instructive and goes into the hows, whys, and whens.
Reply:You need a trainer for proper instruction. Proper training should not be very expensive. Never sign a contract and never pay for rank testing. A traditional school should be rather inexpensive.





Why are you saving up for a Hummer? Are you going to be going on an off road expedition? Do you know how much gas they use? Think more Earth friendly.
Reply:there is no cheap way 2 learn m8 ...it takes hard work and dedication , its a way of life to the ppl who can be bothered to try hard enough..... i recommend classes scrap the hummer, this is much more rewarding!