i look at martial arts today and 90% is xma(gymnastics, acrobatics). personally i love watching it, but at the same time I find less and less traditional MA classes. altho there are some good aspects of xma, a lot of the real application is being lost along with tradition. Ok i'm not saying there arent any xma people that can fight but i mean they try to make everything fancy, not effective. I know that xma adds some aspects to the art, but i believe it takes away more than it adds. A lot of times MA are refered to by people as sports, they shouldnt be sports now, they are arts, people have just turned them into sports. The meaning and skill level of a black belt has become so degraded from what it used to be. Comparing XMA to traditional MA is like comparing WWE to wrestling or even like comparing the harlem globetrotters to an NBA team. Also to many people buy their belts now, they dont earn them. America has an "I want it now" attitude. I see so many classes that if u pay u progress
What has happened to the martial arts?
this is just some of my thoughts on the matter. so take them with a grain of salt.
before when people learn martial arts they learned it because that was a way of life and if they did not know how to fight then they were dead. Also when they trained they were representing their teacher.
meaning that they really did not pay money for their training but they were srevants to the master.
now a days people go to a place and they think because they give money to the teacher or sensi that he owes them and they do not care about the dojo or the sensi as long as they think they are moving up.
As for me. (I take Shorei ryu) the school has been around for a while and the Sensi is very good and we work for everything. However i have heard storys that back in the day the two guys that started the school were very good but the were very strict.
one of them would try and make it so that you did not want to go back. Now if someone was that strict then people whould do one of two things.
1. they would not want to put in the work and get somehthing real out of it and would instead go to a place that tells them they can get a black belt in two years.
2. they see it as they were getting picked on and they would find a way to sue them and some way win.
Now the XMA'S are fun to watch and there are good martial artist that are in them.
they do it to have fun and it is a good way to bring people in. i know that most of the people that you bring in because they have seen the XMA'S are going to stick with it or are the people that are people that want a black belt in two years.
However there are going to be that handful of people that you bring in that if you are a good school you are going to get them to reliaze that the XMA'S are just one of the many things you could do with your training and that the martial arts is far better the XMA'S.
Reply:Amen!
I am a strong traditionalist and, personally, I am not interested in even watching xma or the sport ma. That is my preference.
I would rather watch a traditionally done Form. I believe I have said that I love Forms. In one Dojo they wanted to teach me "competition" Forms, with all the flash and dance and use me to win trophies for them.
I refused. Most of these competition Forms do not make any sense! Those who like flash say "ohhhhhhhhhhhh" and "aaaaaahhhhhh" and old traditionalists like me say "that made no sense!" or "that would not work!"
I do not have a single problem with those who compete in sport ma's as long as they state clearly what it is: sport.
I also agree that the preponderance of sport ma is causing a loss of the traditional martial arts. People want that flash and dance, applause and accolade. Some traditionalists are turning from the traditions, new students are seeking out the sport ma's.
I left one Dojang because it went "sport". Sabunim decided that he wanted his school to earn trophies and the money and accord that goes along with it. I politely said goodbye to him, bowed properly, and walked out.
I believe that the sport ma's focus is not the sort of training that takes years and years to earn that blackbelt. All they teach is learn-it-fast technique.
Most people do not "get" that a truly traditional martial artist does not NEED the applause and accolade.
Reply:No shitman it should be what its called "traditional martial arts"
Reply:Great question. I think two things (there are others, but these seem to stick out to me right now) are that: 1) the lack of great, noticeable figures in martial arts and 2) some Western ideals have diluted very technical methods of self-defense into generic forms of "karate".
People still associate MA with people like Bruce Lee and Jet Li, rather than watching modern-day martial arts competitions (Olympic Taekwondo anyone?). The traditions and forms that come with martial arts are lost to many who just look to know how to defend themselves or fight other people.
I totally agree with the fact that the honor and meaning to a black belt has become diluted, with very young children getting black belts without even understanding what it means. There are so many places that teach "Jujitsu" or "Taekwondo" when they only teach some generic punches, stances, and forms that are not rooted in the philosophy and art of the MA. Westernized forms of martial arts stress getting fit and protecting yourself, rather than understanding the "art" part.
People like Billy Blanks teaching taebo doesn't help either. @_@
Reply:We live in an interesting time. If you live in a city, it's likely that your body only makes 90 degree turns, and your body only gets a small percent of training in its possibilities. You walk on dependable hard surfaces, you rarely ward off flying branches, when was the most recent time you crawled much? So combine that with the further limiting/expanding results of lots of tv (it narrows your habitual left-right eye moves, which makes you habitually fearful...that's my opinion; and it expands your credulity as to what's possible, ie, kung fu guys leaping from trampolines in films, etc) so you're ripe for gymnastics or whatever training
passes for martial arts.
There aren't any real mysteries in the arts, not if you research and practice enough. Machiavelli even has a great section on which he details how warriors from various Italian cities trained in his time. Martial artists will find his description very familiar!
There are old African training methods, mostly lost, that held a lot of practical lore. what we call martial arts was old and extremely well developed in
Sparta...they started boys out by moving them out from their homes and training them seven hours a day until they were, I think, 40. Don't mess with guys like that,or Davy Crocket, or an old-time bareknuckle fighter: they wren't in it for show, they were in it to kill you. (so am I)
And that's what happened to the martial arts. Look: if you were born in brutal times, your dad insisted you learn to fight. So did you MOM! who was, by the way, my first gloves-on sparring partner.
So maybe you learned a trick here, from an older guy who knew one or two, and you treasured it. And maybe you figured out another. And pretty soon you had a few 'secrets' that got you out of trouble in a bar or in an alley or somewhere else. That's the original tradition, and eventually somebody had an accumulation of twenty or thirty 'tricks' and found that to remember and to be quick enough he had to practice, which usually meant linking them together...does this begin to sound familiar? Some of my Chinese friends used to tell me that the sacred t'ai ch'i had in its original form....twelve moves! Big whoop. Except it was better than anything else, and people added to it.
So what happened? well...did you learn to ride a bicycle with training wheels? did you wear a helmet? I'm trying to tell you something: your world is different than the one I grew up in. No training wheels, no helmet until I got into the Army. Lots of fights in school and out of it, and it was OK: guys were expected to settle things this way. I did, and I kept learning, and not liking to fight but liking to win...that's the difference! got me thru lots of judo and karate and Special Forces and...sixteen years of pretty heavy body-thumping boxing/wrestling/karate training when I was already too damned old for it. And I gotta say, I looked in many towns and many many dojos before I found who I was looking for.
Because I'm not interested in the belts, although I have quite a few now, and I'm not interested in the uniforms, and I want nothing to do with a sparring match where somebody ELSE tells you to start and stop and tells you who won...I can tell you it's all about winning when you need it. And many contemporary dojos and methods will teach you 'self-defense'...or 'defensive arts' and that's not where it is either. The whole game is to develop so you can beat everybody you are apt to ever combat, ever. Yes, I know: it's impossible to get to that level, probably, but that's the goal. Read Musashi sometime. He's pretty clear about it. So am I.
And that's VERY difficult to teach, and it's VERY difficult to create an area and atmosphere where you can practice, seriously, and not lose your timing from going too soft or easy or slow or...it's easier to go wrong than it is to go right.
You probably won't find real training in the phone book.
But you can get to be a 'black belt' ...whattever THAT means...
in a year at some tai kwon do parlors, and others. I'm not denigrating what they learn, nor do I laugh too hard at seven year olds who got their black belt...I used to teach those kinds of black belts how to fight, and some of them actually learned something.
So really, any kind of training is good: it's just like this...you know that it takes about ten years for a guy to become a decent lawyer, or plumber, or anything. Why would it be any diferent with the most important interpersonal survival skill there is?
So the problem is that the marial arts academies teach a curriculum, and they charge you for the lessons, much of which could be useful, but what YOU want is combat capability, which can only be gained through EXPERIENCE...and since even people who think of themselves as street brawlers par excellence will usually only have maybe two minutes' worth of real fight experience in several years...so YOUR problem is to find somewhere and somehow that you can get some realistic training that won't cost you your eyes, teeth, and balls before you get any capability.
It's rare, but it's there. The best guy I know in this country is pretty much retired, but he put up with me for 16 years and batted, choked, and pinned and threw my ears back any time he felt like it. Which is OK: I returned the favorwhenver I could and to a LOT of other people during the same time and since. But ol' Roy is mighty rare...you could send him an email at lonfu.com. Or join the service, get into the Rangers, and when you get to Smoke Bomb hill in Special Forces start your own club. That's what I did. But once again: you have to be careful. REmember what crybabies do when they get a lawyer...
Reply:Comercialism has made huge inroads but there are still schools where Martial Arts are still taught the traditional way. They are harder to find because tha comercial schools to so much more to attract attention.
Reply:Good martial arts is still out there...
The problem is that a lot of people are calling themselves teachers who only want to make a buck and a lot of people are getting into martial arts just because they want to learn how to fight.
Meanwhile, the (for want of a better term) "authentic" disciplines go quietly on their way without making a lot of noise or getting much publicity.
Reply:I absoultly agree. Dont get me wrong, the gymnastics is fun, but they shouldnt teach you it at a dojo. If you want to learn flips you sould go to a gymnastics place or ask a trustful instructor to help you with some...if you want to laern. I think karate has changed beacuse no one wants to have a strict hard enviroment anymore. They just want to look good at whatever they are doing!
Reply:anything that wont save your @ss isnt worth while. Dancing wont save you either.
even tradition for traditions sake is lame. move with the times, or stay in the dark ages. if you have learned all you can where you are at, why are you still there? not for martial development, but perhaps the fame of being the best one at your dojo?
Reply:i do agree that xma has taken to much away from MA, but at the same time, i do see why MA are becoming more of a sport. With modern weapons such as guns, and so many people having the with them at all times, knowing how to do a roundhouse kick to defend yourself isnt as important. I do see the importance of knowing how to defend yourself in hand to hand combat, and i myself am a 1st Dan yellow first in the gaurdian black belt style of tae kwon do. i (unfortnately, i didnt know it when i started, im looking for a new school) belong to a school where many people buy their belts, and it disgusts me. i personally make sure i know everything i need to know, and i can do it as perfectly as i possibly can before i test. As a green belt, i could already out perform half the black belts in my school, its terrible. as a teenage black belt, i am as good if not better than some of the second and third degree black belt 20 and 30 year old students in my dojo.
Reply:This a great question.I agree about what you said about extreme martial arts but it is the sign of the times.People watch a Jet Li movie with all that cable work and cg and think that is what it is all about.That's why you have the extreme martial art competitions.The reason why you have the UFC,although I do enjoy it,people do not want to put in the work to understand the art of self defense they just want to fight and that is what martial arts is not.It is these types of attitudes that is destroying martial arts.I know as martial artist we must evolve and adapt,in fact that is the true mark of martial art expert but the new needs to be incorporated with the old not replace it.I still use traditional techniques in kumite and I am successful in doing so.In fact some of the younger students still don't understand how,as they say your" simple techniques" are so effective.Especially when they train for hours to learn some new acrobatic kick.So do not be afraid of the new but definitely keep the old.
Reply:Yeah I kinda partly agree with you. It's pretty hard to find a traditional martial art dojo in America. Xma is not trying to be able to fight and being effective as you say. It's displaying their flexibility and talent. The misuse of ma I find today is in mma tournaments.
Monday, November 16, 2009
"Family Style" vs. "business" martial arts?
Is there any systems that are taught anymore passed from father / mother to children. I have several children and am willing to pass on my knowledge at any point the want. I'd like to know that there are others who teach their children there ways of martial skills in this manner rather than going to a public dojo. Is this popular anymore? I'd like to talk with other parents who teach their families at home. I've talked with a few who claim there parents taught them martial arts but as yet I've never meet anyone who seemed to really have skill.
I personally, would love to pass on my knowledge to my children in this manner. What is your view on this?
"Family Style" vs. "business" martial arts?
I am a single dad of two lil girls ages three and two, and I have to say my three year old has one hell of a right cross, while my 2 year old gets down with the double front kick hahaha... can't help it as parents we want to teach our kids what we know... that just nature
Reply:I think its great teaching your kids yourself. That way you know they are learning the technics that they need to know. Also you can be more patient with them and if they need extra time to learn certain technics you are right there to help as opposed to them practicing what they think the technic is and then finding out it was all wrong the next time they go to class
Reply:My dad tried to teach my brother and I the martial arts after he returned from Thailand during the Vietnam War.
*My brother blew it off.
*I really enjoyed it.
*I guess I didn't "get" the sparring part, because I had my a$$ handed to me several times (i.e., sparring others, lifeguarding "issues", etc.).
**I saw my dad spar, and he was really quite good.
*I've tried out a few other martial arts since, and have been quite satisfied with it all.
*I spar now (at the dojo, and in tournaments), and I guess I've gotten a little better since the 1970's.
Insofar as teaching one's own kids:
*Please be PATIENT, they're not students, they're your own kids and require a different approach.
**If you screw this part up (i.e., too easy, boring, harsh, etc.), they'll never "take" to the art.
Have a nice weekend, I hope this helps.
(;=]
Reply:So what is stopping you? My daughter is only 4 so we play martial arts games (wrestling ect...) If she wants to join a dojo when she is old enough that would be great. I look at it like swiming. She dosen't have to join the swimming team, but she has to know enough not to drown.
Reply:This is actually a bit of a touchy subject. I have a friend of Chinese decent and his father wanted to teach him the family style, but my friend resisted. For what reason, I do not know, but when he attended classes where I was, he thrived.
What I have observed is that even though schools of Chinese martial arts have a "family feel" to them (that is, the sifu is regarded as a father and treated as such rather than a "master" in the sense of one in charge of another, as is the case in many other systems such as traditional Japanese styles), there is a distinction between a teacher/student role versus a parent/child role. The difficulty lies in distinguishing the two at first, but then going on to take on both roles while keeping them separate!
Personally, I will probably not teach my children when I have them (at least not as the sole teacher), but I will allow my contemporaries to do so and I will practice with them. Honestly, my fear is that I will be too hard on my children and perhaps expect too much of them, or else project my own aspirations onto them. It would be awesome to pass on my knowledge and my passion onto my children, but I wouldn't want to if they were just trying to make me happy with no genuine interest of their own. Should they choose to have me a teacher, I would do my best to wear two hats - one as father, and another separately as sifu. I will, though, teach my nieces and nephews when they are old enough since I do not see them on a daily basis.
Oddly enough, I suppose you could say I practice a family style: Hung Gar! That is, the system of the Hung family, but now we're splitting hairs...!
Reply:I think it's a great thing that you want to pass on your skill and knowledge to your children. I, personally, plan to do so when my son is old enough to understand what he's doing provided he has a desire to do it.
I would say don't push it on your kids as that may cause a bit of tension between you, but it can certainly be a wonderful experience that not all families can have.
My guess would be it is popular outside of the US but most people in the US don't have that feel for the tradition or end up falling away from their art and become those that know the style but never practice it. Because of this, they end up never considering teaching their kids.
I personally, would love to pass on my knowledge to my children in this manner. What is your view on this?
"Family Style" vs. "business" martial arts?
I am a single dad of two lil girls ages three and two, and I have to say my three year old has one hell of a right cross, while my 2 year old gets down with the double front kick hahaha... can't help it as parents we want to teach our kids what we know... that just nature
Reply:I think its great teaching your kids yourself. That way you know they are learning the technics that they need to know. Also you can be more patient with them and if they need extra time to learn certain technics you are right there to help as opposed to them practicing what they think the technic is and then finding out it was all wrong the next time they go to class
Reply:My dad tried to teach my brother and I the martial arts after he returned from Thailand during the Vietnam War.
*My brother blew it off.
*I really enjoyed it.
*I guess I didn't "get" the sparring part, because I had my a$$ handed to me several times (i.e., sparring others, lifeguarding "issues", etc.).
**I saw my dad spar, and he was really quite good.
*I've tried out a few other martial arts since, and have been quite satisfied with it all.
*I spar now (at the dojo, and in tournaments), and I guess I've gotten a little better since the 1970's.
Insofar as teaching one's own kids:
*Please be PATIENT, they're not students, they're your own kids and require a different approach.
**If you screw this part up (i.e., too easy, boring, harsh, etc.), they'll never "take" to the art.
Have a nice weekend, I hope this helps.
(;=]
Reply:So what is stopping you? My daughter is only 4 so we play martial arts games (wrestling ect...) If she wants to join a dojo when she is old enough that would be great. I look at it like swiming. She dosen't have to join the swimming team, but she has to know enough not to drown.
Reply:This is actually a bit of a touchy subject. I have a friend of Chinese decent and his father wanted to teach him the family style, but my friend resisted. For what reason, I do not know, but when he attended classes where I was, he thrived.
What I have observed is that even though schools of Chinese martial arts have a "family feel" to them (that is, the sifu is regarded as a father and treated as such rather than a "master" in the sense of one in charge of another, as is the case in many other systems such as traditional Japanese styles), there is a distinction between a teacher/student role versus a parent/child role. The difficulty lies in distinguishing the two at first, but then going on to take on both roles while keeping them separate!
Personally, I will probably not teach my children when I have them (at least not as the sole teacher), but I will allow my contemporaries to do so and I will practice with them. Honestly, my fear is that I will be too hard on my children and perhaps expect too much of them, or else project my own aspirations onto them. It would be awesome to pass on my knowledge and my passion onto my children, but I wouldn't want to if they were just trying to make me happy with no genuine interest of their own. Should they choose to have me a teacher, I would do my best to wear two hats - one as father, and another separately as sifu. I will, though, teach my nieces and nephews when they are old enough since I do not see them on a daily basis.
Oddly enough, I suppose you could say I practice a family style: Hung Gar! That is, the system of the Hung family, but now we're splitting hairs...!
Reply:I think it's a great thing that you want to pass on your skill and knowledge to your children. I, personally, plan to do so when my son is old enough to understand what he's doing provided he has a desire to do it.
I would say don't push it on your kids as that may cause a bit of tension between you, but it can certainly be a wonderful experience that not all families can have.
My guess would be it is popular outside of the US but most people in the US don't have that feel for the tradition or end up falling away from their art and become those that know the style but never practice it. Because of this, they end up never considering teaching their kids.
Marine corps. martial arts program ?
can somebody ( preferably current or veteran marines ) explain the marine corps. martial arts program to me ? i know that you earn a tan belt during boot camp, but how do you progress and take higher belt courses ? can you become and instructor if your an enlisted marine or do you have to be an officer ?
Marine corps. martial arts program ?
The current system used is called MCMAP, Marine Corps Martial Arts System. This replaced the earlier system of L.I.N.E. (Linear Infighting Neural Override Engagement) ended in 1998. The argument was that the earlier system was strictly geared towards death of the enemy and the new system allows you to cripple prior to killing. You are right that it is taught in boot camp as a mandatory class for all recruits, male at least as far as I know. After boot camp you will not get a chance to progress until you get to a unit. I'm sure you can guess that the infantry field will have the most chances to progress to higher levels. I forgot the colors but the next level can be attained by going to a class on it, this is the same for green belt (the next level). You taking courses all depends on your command and how many slots they have open for kung fu, get used to calling it that you'll find out later why. Enlisted can become instructors and all instructors I knew were enlisted. There was only one officer and he was prior enlisted and got instructor status while enlisted. The first instructor class available is green belt instructor and the school is reserved for E-4 and above.
As far as the system itself, get ready to do body hardening, where you and a buddy judo chop each other in different bodily areas for hours at a time. Yeah it could get old quickly. Proper throws, landing and recovering from throws is covered. Manipulation of joints is covered as well, not the ones you're smoking now. And of course how to end a fight in a combat environment is covered. The program has deep wrestling roots. Hope this explains it, feel free to give me a shout if you got more questions.
Reply:You can be enlisted. I dont know the details but you could contact someone that is in that program.
Reply:You can take higher courses at your MOS school (if long enough) or at your unit. This will include remedial training of your current belt, ie tan. Then you will learn the grey belt moves: ie: hip throws, more advance striking techniques, baton usage, etc. Then you test for your belt. As a green belt (must be a Lcpl or above), brown belt or black belt (must be a Sgt or above to train for black belt), you have the option of becoming an instructor. For black belt, I believe there is 5 degrees or so. The degrees in black belt requires a specific rank but I don't remember them.
Reply:Hello Warchemy. Glad in your interest in the MCMAP. In the MCMAP program you progress by training. To qualify for a higher belt you need to have a certain number of training hours. Also almost all belts need recommendations from a reporting senior Non Commissioned or Commissioned officer. Yes, Enlisted Marines can become instructors. Once you achieve you're Grey Belt you can take additional training to become a martial arts instructor. You then receive a secondary MOS of 0916. You can train Marines up to you're current belt level, and certify Marines up to one belt lower.
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Marine corps. martial arts program ?
The current system used is called MCMAP, Marine Corps Martial Arts System. This replaced the earlier system of L.I.N.E. (Linear Infighting Neural Override Engagement) ended in 1998. The argument was that the earlier system was strictly geared towards death of the enemy and the new system allows you to cripple prior to killing. You are right that it is taught in boot camp as a mandatory class for all recruits, male at least as far as I know. After boot camp you will not get a chance to progress until you get to a unit. I'm sure you can guess that the infantry field will have the most chances to progress to higher levels. I forgot the colors but the next level can be attained by going to a class on it, this is the same for green belt (the next level). You taking courses all depends on your command and how many slots they have open for kung fu, get used to calling it that you'll find out later why. Enlisted can become instructors and all instructors I knew were enlisted. There was only one officer and he was prior enlisted and got instructor status while enlisted. The first instructor class available is green belt instructor and the school is reserved for E-4 and above.
As far as the system itself, get ready to do body hardening, where you and a buddy judo chop each other in different bodily areas for hours at a time. Yeah it could get old quickly. Proper throws, landing and recovering from throws is covered. Manipulation of joints is covered as well, not the ones you're smoking now. And of course how to end a fight in a combat environment is covered. The program has deep wrestling roots. Hope this explains it, feel free to give me a shout if you got more questions.
Reply:You can be enlisted. I dont know the details but you could contact someone that is in that program.
Reply:You can take higher courses at your MOS school (if long enough) or at your unit. This will include remedial training of your current belt, ie tan. Then you will learn the grey belt moves: ie: hip throws, more advance striking techniques, baton usage, etc. Then you test for your belt. As a green belt (must be a Lcpl or above), brown belt or black belt (must be a Sgt or above to train for black belt), you have the option of becoming an instructor. For black belt, I believe there is 5 degrees or so. The degrees in black belt requires a specific rank but I don't remember them.
Reply:Hello Warchemy. Glad in your interest in the MCMAP. In the MCMAP program you progress by training. To qualify for a higher belt you need to have a certain number of training hours. Also almost all belts need recommendations from a reporting senior Non Commissioned or Commissioned officer. Yes, Enlisted Marines can become instructors. Once you achieve you're Grey Belt you can take additional training to become a martial arts instructor. You then receive a secondary MOS of 0916. You can train Marines up to you're current belt level, and certify Marines up to one belt lower.
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Bdk? bdku? martial arts and weapons etc.?
I remember a site and magazine called something like "BDK" or BDKU" or something of the sort. It sold all sorts of weapons, knives, martial arts or ninja weapons, and some airsoft.
It had some of the coolest things, and the magazine was the most fun thing to look at with some friends.
I have been searching for it for a while now, and it is definitely not "BDK" or "BDKU," although I think it is similar to that.
Can someone point me to the actual company/website? Thanx.
Bdk? bdku? martial arts and weapons etc.?
Why do you need those? I think you need to see therapist.
It had some of the coolest things, and the magazine was the most fun thing to look at with some friends.
I have been searching for it for a while now, and it is definitely not "BDK" or "BDKU," although I think it is similar to that.
Can someone point me to the actual company/website? Thanx.
Bdk? bdku? martial arts and weapons etc.?
Why do you need those? I think you need to see therapist.
Has anyone heard of a martial arts interest group?
in the local sports center down the road from where i live there is a french conversation group and all you do there is show up pay rediculously small amounts of money and speak french just as like a bunch of people with the same interest sort of thing what i wanna know is if there is the same sort of thing for martial arts not just one bussiness teaching lessons i mean an interest group where people just go and talk and share what they know as an interest not any specific martial art or business
Has anyone heard of a martial arts interest group?
martial arts interest grousps? o.O thats what talking to people at the dojo/dojang is for, right?
why on earth would you want to join a martial arts interest group XD
your here arn't you?
Has anyone heard of a martial arts interest group?
martial arts interest grousps? o.O thats what talking to people at the dojo/dojang is for, right?
why on earth would you want to join a martial arts interest group XD
your here arn't you?
Do mixed Martial Arts competitions really compare to Cockfighting from an ethical point of view?
http://uk.news.yahoo.com/pressass/200709...
I read this today, and I think the comparrison between animals thrown into a pit/cage with no choice but to fight is far from the reality of people training with the purpose and intent to fight.
So from an ethical point of view is Cockfight really an accurate comparison to Mixed Martial Arts bouts, or just a shock tactic aimed at disgusting people to gain public support?
Do mixed Martial Arts competitions really compare to Cockfighting from an ethical point of view?
Unless the humans in the fight are being forced to do it, then there is no comparison.
Reply:no the c*ck has no choice...you can chose as your in control of the situation and if you want to fight that should be your choice. im, more against bull fighting though and not just cause im a Taurus but even if they win there murdered, some are even set on fire alive its sickening
like i said its personal choice, if i want to die why cant i, if i want to smoke why cant i, i know the risks ( this friday will be my week 5 without a ciggy.
its a way for the powers that be to slowly take more and more controll, like banning jungle gyms cause you might fall off, the world is getting to pc and people are becoming soft.
people need to harden up. like vaccines for flu, actuallyu weakens your immune system so when the next strain comes you have more chance of dying than someone who deals with it naturally. its a way to make money, by regulation then banning and criminalisation
Reply:MMA can be stopped...cockfighting is to the death or they kill and eat the loser
Reply:I feel the element of free will of a person choosing to partake in these sports is somewhat greater then that of a cock tossed into a ring...
But hey, if we can ban that, lets ban cricket as it causes trees to get chopped down to make the wickets and so is causing widespread deforestation.
Reply:No.
Martial arts and boxing is with consenting adults or minors with parental permission are making a choice.
Animal fighting is abuse.
Reply:Bit of both and actually there is not much difference. You have a choice to fight? i dont think so, you may choose to start the sport but if you are good and get contracts it is not your "choice" anymore. Death threats happen in real life.
I cant see why people complain about the influence of violence from movies and computer games but this is no problem?????? Something seriously wrong with the logic there
Reply:The BMA have their head in the sand. People will fight NO MATTER WHAT.
So should we make criminals of people - knowing they are going to continue their sport anyway?
Then what? Illegal bouts, have little medical support, black money, unfair decisions, etc.
Shouldn't they be spending their time looking for a cancer-cure, or something?
Reply:Years ago I used to be in a Goju martial arts school and we would often engage in competitions with other schools. The participants clearly had a choice and they were optional for us to join, the grandmasters who ran the schools tried to minimize the possibility of injuries by making sure the participants used the proper padding and equipment to prevent injuries, and had referees present to make sure the participants followed strict rules (i.e. no biting or hitting sensitive areas like knee joints on the body). But this recent "mixed martial arts" fighting fad is something completely different from what I knew. I don't think it should be banned, but there should be a lot more government oversight to ensure that the participants are properly trained, are not being coerced in any way, and know exactly what they are getting into.
Reply:humans choose to fight, animals, it is chosen for them.
RRRRR
Reply:I agree with you. People fighting is the most primal and amncient form of sport, and there are rules (some of the foreign competitions are really dodgy and need sorting out though), and people choose to do it, unlike animals. People stop before anyone gets hurt, unlike with animals.
That comparison is like saying people shouldnt get drunk because force feeding alcohol to animals would be cruel. It is a very dodgy anlogy.
I read this today, and I think the comparrison between animals thrown into a pit/cage with no choice but to fight is far from the reality of people training with the purpose and intent to fight.
So from an ethical point of view is Cockfight really an accurate comparison to Mixed Martial Arts bouts, or just a shock tactic aimed at disgusting people to gain public support?
Do mixed Martial Arts competitions really compare to Cockfighting from an ethical point of view?
Unless the humans in the fight are being forced to do it, then there is no comparison.
Reply:no the c*ck has no choice...you can chose as your in control of the situation and if you want to fight that should be your choice. im, more against bull fighting though and not just cause im a Taurus but even if they win there murdered, some are even set on fire alive its sickening
like i said its personal choice, if i want to die why cant i, if i want to smoke why cant i, i know the risks ( this friday will be my week 5 without a ciggy.
its a way for the powers that be to slowly take more and more controll, like banning jungle gyms cause you might fall off, the world is getting to pc and people are becoming soft.
people need to harden up. like vaccines for flu, actuallyu weakens your immune system so when the next strain comes you have more chance of dying than someone who deals with it naturally. its a way to make money, by regulation then banning and criminalisation
Reply:MMA can be stopped...cockfighting is to the death or they kill and eat the loser
Reply:I feel the element of free will of a person choosing to partake in these sports is somewhat greater then that of a cock tossed into a ring...
But hey, if we can ban that, lets ban cricket as it causes trees to get chopped down to make the wickets and so is causing widespread deforestation.
Reply:No.
Martial arts and boxing is with consenting adults or minors with parental permission are making a choice.
Animal fighting is abuse.
Reply:Bit of both and actually there is not much difference. You have a choice to fight? i dont think so, you may choose to start the sport but if you are good and get contracts it is not your "choice" anymore. Death threats happen in real life.
I cant see why people complain about the influence of violence from movies and computer games but this is no problem?????? Something seriously wrong with the logic there
Reply:The BMA have their head in the sand. People will fight NO MATTER WHAT.
So should we make criminals of people - knowing they are going to continue their sport anyway?
Then what? Illegal bouts, have little medical support, black money, unfair decisions, etc.
Shouldn't they be spending their time looking for a cancer-cure, or something?
Reply:Years ago I used to be in a Goju martial arts school and we would often engage in competitions with other schools. The participants clearly had a choice and they were optional for us to join, the grandmasters who ran the schools tried to minimize the possibility of injuries by making sure the participants used the proper padding and equipment to prevent injuries, and had referees present to make sure the participants followed strict rules (i.e. no biting or hitting sensitive areas like knee joints on the body). But this recent "mixed martial arts" fighting fad is something completely different from what I knew. I don't think it should be banned, but there should be a lot more government oversight to ensure that the participants are properly trained, are not being coerced in any way, and know exactly what they are getting into.
Reply:humans choose to fight, animals, it is chosen for them.
RRRRR
Reply:I agree with you. People fighting is the most primal and amncient form of sport, and there are rules (some of the foreign competitions are really dodgy and need sorting out though), and people choose to do it, unlike animals. People stop before anyone gets hurt, unlike with animals.
That comparison is like saying people shouldnt get drunk because force feeding alcohol to animals would be cruel. It is a very dodgy anlogy.
Who believes that the entire martial arts community owes Bruce Lee a debt?
Whether you believe that Bruce Lee was the real thing, or an overhyped actor, one thing is true- the entire martial arts community owes him a huge debt of gratitude. It was his movies in the seventies that were the flashpoint for the huge interest in the martial arts that continues today.
Who believes that the entire martial arts community owes Bruce Lee a debt?
I think not.
Bruce Lee, thanks to his popularizing Eastern martial arts, has led to the popular belief that Asia is the only place where there was any sort of formalized combat training.
Europe has a long and proud tradition of martial arts as well, styles that are better adapted for the heavier, stronger frames of Westerners. And now, unless you know exactly where to look, the only documentation one will find about martial arts will involve an asian style. Now, that tradition is just about forgotten, except for the very small minority of martial artists who study European styles.
Reply:I don't agree.
Reply:I agree and not to mention his son , who was also killed because of his father's mistakes Brandon Lee. Bruce shared an ancient secret and sold martial arts out for whatever his intentions were I hope he is paying the price in the next life.
Reply:No one owes Bruce Lee anything.
Reply:yeah i agree and here it is http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:HK_St... and also he is known as one of the fathers of martial arts from ufc. And time magazine put him in top 100 most important people of the century. 2003 dedicated best martial artist whoever exsisted.
SO he isnt forgotten and alot of things have been done because of him. so the debt has been paid what more do u think the people should pay to him? he is only one person.
Reply:Here Here!
Reply:I believe he was a great Martial artist and his movies started alot of kids into the arts.
Because of him and his movies, we have many forms of martial arts in most every city.
Reply:Look i agree if it weren't for Bruce I'd probably wouldn't be the person i am today, that being said, if it weren't for Bruce the style that are around would probably be better and more traditional than what they have been corrupted to. so he did open our eyes to eastern fighting and make it more accessible to us by crossing the water and teaching us, but at what cost. stories are told of the ancient masters that did human defining things, has martial arts improved since its journey west or has it become corrupt?
and though there are westen styles (roman grappeling, american boxing, and spanish sword play) you can't call gracie jiu jitisu westen ( it can from japan, the gracie family learned it and puurged some and now you have gracie jiu jitisu )
Reply:I believe that Bruce Lee has a debt he was a good martial artist
Who believes that the entire martial arts community owes Bruce Lee a debt?
I think not.
Bruce Lee, thanks to his popularizing Eastern martial arts, has led to the popular belief that Asia is the only place where there was any sort of formalized combat training.
Europe has a long and proud tradition of martial arts as well, styles that are better adapted for the heavier, stronger frames of Westerners. And now, unless you know exactly where to look, the only documentation one will find about martial arts will involve an asian style. Now, that tradition is just about forgotten, except for the very small minority of martial artists who study European styles.
Reply:I don't agree.
Reply:I agree and not to mention his son , who was also killed because of his father's mistakes Brandon Lee. Bruce shared an ancient secret and sold martial arts out for whatever his intentions were I hope he is paying the price in the next life.
Reply:No one owes Bruce Lee anything.
Reply:yeah i agree and here it is http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:HK_St... and also he is known as one of the fathers of martial arts from ufc. And time magazine put him in top 100 most important people of the century. 2003 dedicated best martial artist whoever exsisted.
SO he isnt forgotten and alot of things have been done because of him. so the debt has been paid what more do u think the people should pay to him? he is only one person.
Reply:Here Here!
Reply:I believe he was a great Martial artist and his movies started alot of kids into the arts.
Because of him and his movies, we have many forms of martial arts in most every city.
Reply:Look i agree if it weren't for Bruce I'd probably wouldn't be the person i am today, that being said, if it weren't for Bruce the style that are around would probably be better and more traditional than what they have been corrupted to. so he did open our eyes to eastern fighting and make it more accessible to us by crossing the water and teaching us, but at what cost. stories are told of the ancient masters that did human defining things, has martial arts improved since its journey west or has it become corrupt?
and though there are westen styles (roman grappeling, american boxing, and spanish sword play) you can't call gracie jiu jitisu westen ( it can from japan, the gracie family learned it and puurged some and now you have gracie jiu jitisu )
Reply:I believe that Bruce Lee has a debt he was a good martial artist
Transportation of martial arts weapons?
I have a pair of escrima sticks, a jo staff, a bo staff, and a pair of sais (tucked away in a carrying case - they'd take at least twenty seconds to get out of it). I was transporting them to my martial arts class where I receive training on how to use them and got pulled over. The police officer told me that carrying them in the back seat of my car was considered carrying a concealed weapon. He told me next time I'd be getting more than a warning.
Is this true, or was this police officer misinterpreting the law or overstretching his bounds? If not, what should I do to avoid a problem like this again? (other than not getting pulled over)
Transportation of martial arts weapons?
There are different laws governing different states, and enforcement will vary depending on what the local DA is willing to prosecute and at the discretion of the individual police officer.
In most states carrying anything considered a weapon whether in plain sight or not is frowned upon for fairly obvious reasons. Such things would include a baseball bat, a tire iron, and so on. In most cases however, if you're heading to or from baseball practice and have your baseball uniform with you or a couple of baseballs perhaps, they'll probably ask you to put them in your trunk where you can't readily access them and you'll be fine.
With martial arts weapons, you should only really transport them to and from classes, and whenever possible, you should transport them in your trunk and with your uniform and belt. In most reasonable cases, officers will accept that, though they may ask further questions as to where your school is, when your class is, who your instructor is etc.
If you must carry them in your car, and a 6' staff wouldn't fit in my trunk either :), it should only be the weapons that you can't fit into you trunk that you leave in there. You should also have your uniform and belt with you i.e. going to or from training. In most cases, an officer will recognize that it doesn't fit in the trunk and that the weapon is not "readily available" to you to use, because getting the darned 6' thing into the car is usually a challenge, so you certainly can't pull it out too easily.
In general they are trying to prevent people from carrying ready to use weapons. Things that are small enough or easy enough to grab quickly and use just as quickly. On the whole it's not as problematic as carrying a live bladed weapon or obviously a loaded firearm, but it does sometimes make them a little nervous. Even if they did decide to make a report, I don't think many DA's would waste time prosecuting it unless there was some other action or reason why they felt you were a danger to the community :)
So, to avoid it in the future - put everything you can into your trunk, only carry your weapons when you are going to training and have your uniform and belt with you, if you're a dan carry your dan ID card with you, and if you are stopped, tell the officers immeidately that you are a martial artists going to or coming from training and that you have some martial arts weapons in your trunk/back seat etc. Keep your hands on the steering wheel when you tell them this so that you don't make them nervous for any reason. Most officers should appreciate the information and your explanation.
If you're school works with weapons a lot, you may also want to get to know you local law enforcement personnel. My association has a very close relationship with our local officers, and we do some joint self-defense seminars and community events with them. This helps to alleviate this type of potential tension when the officers are already familiar with your school and your instructor.
Hope this helps somewhat.
Ken C
9th Dan HapMoosaKi-Do
8th Dan TaeKwon-Do
7th Dan YongChul-Do
Reply:Just throw it in the trunk next time, don't think he could argue with that. They don't make too much of a fuss at all when you have a carry permit too, so why not get one? It's cheap.
Reply:If it's exposed in plain view, how can it be concealed? And why is he causing you trouble about this in any event?
You must live in one of those little dictatorship states back east, or possibly California out west, which are infested with liberals who pervert the law.
Or sadly, it appears there are some cops who have contempt for people's rights and make their own rules on the street.
Consider the irony of what people are suggesting here. On the back seat it's not concealed, and in the trunk it is concealed. Again, common sense is defied.
Why are there laws that prevent HONEST CITIZENS from being able to have means to protect themselves?
Reply:The staffs will be tough... I personally owned 2, one for the dojo and one for home. As far as the others, put them in the trunk. When asked if you have weapons in the car, say no.
They cannot search your vehicle without just cause, so don't give them any cause.
Another option would be to contact the state police department and ask them. Or perhaps your local judge.
Reply:Tell that cop to go back to the academy and study harder, plain sight to where it dose not present a threat to the officer is fine! You are almost allowed to have any kind of weapon as long as upon being pulled over you notify the officer of it's presence and DO NOT MOTION TOWARD IT just point. I had cops tell me alot of "next time this" and "next time that", and when the next time occurred I was told "well next time..." My point being they don't want you to carry them, but if you do put them in the trunk - just to be safe. If they want to search the car then tell them they are there, but just know you are not wrong and shouldn't be treated like you are!!!!
Reply:Contact an Attorney, you might need a pickup truck. If the class is with in walking distance ask the legal expert of choice, if walking with the item in the open would be in itself illegal. This problem is the result of the entertainment industry actively misrepresenting items as, instant death manifested.
A grass roots movement needs to do the benevolent act of educating the public, then once the benevolent organization becomes incorporated, 'twill be listed as a Secret-Society. When an organization grows there becomes the need to protect members from legal retaliations. The specifics of grass-roots organizations can become, legally-complex, so that also requires an attorney.
Reply:i always heard to keep it in your backseat. you shouldnt be able to reach them while driving(i doubt its easy to do a drive by with some sais though lol) and have it in the open so you arent "hiding" anything
but thats just what i thought im not knowledgeable on the actual law
Reply:Let him know that is not what the law says. I'm not sure how it exactly applies in SC, so you should consult an attorney Ask your instructor who their attorney is. They'll already be familiar with the laws as they pertain to you because they'd be familiar with your school. If your instructor doesn't have one, why are they teaching weaponry? That's a lawsuit waiting to happen.
The officer may be talking about your sais, which is where it geats tricky. In Virginia, martial arts weaponry is not considered concealed when carried by an actively training martial artist. Its no different than carrying a knife (of course, VA has a blade length law, but sais are not considered knives). SC may consider them like knives, which would mean that an "adult" sized pair of metal sais would definitely excede blade length laws. To get around that, you could get foam/rubber sais, or store them at your school (if allowed).
Hope that helps!
Reply:The cop cannot arrest you for the staff as for the sai's put them in the trunk he needs a reason to look in there same with the sticks although they are in cases and that fact can be argued that they are not in your hands and not being used in anyway to harm anyone. He was just being a jerk talk to your instructor and ask their advice on how to handel this problem.
Is this true, or was this police officer misinterpreting the law or overstretching his bounds? If not, what should I do to avoid a problem like this again? (other than not getting pulled over)
Transportation of martial arts weapons?
There are different laws governing different states, and enforcement will vary depending on what the local DA is willing to prosecute and at the discretion of the individual police officer.
In most states carrying anything considered a weapon whether in plain sight or not is frowned upon for fairly obvious reasons. Such things would include a baseball bat, a tire iron, and so on. In most cases however, if you're heading to or from baseball practice and have your baseball uniform with you or a couple of baseballs perhaps, they'll probably ask you to put them in your trunk where you can't readily access them and you'll be fine.
With martial arts weapons, you should only really transport them to and from classes, and whenever possible, you should transport them in your trunk and with your uniform and belt. In most reasonable cases, officers will accept that, though they may ask further questions as to where your school is, when your class is, who your instructor is etc.
If you must carry them in your car, and a 6' staff wouldn't fit in my trunk either :), it should only be the weapons that you can't fit into you trunk that you leave in there. You should also have your uniform and belt with you i.e. going to or from training. In most cases, an officer will recognize that it doesn't fit in the trunk and that the weapon is not "readily available" to you to use, because getting the darned 6' thing into the car is usually a challenge, so you certainly can't pull it out too easily.
In general they are trying to prevent people from carrying ready to use weapons. Things that are small enough or easy enough to grab quickly and use just as quickly. On the whole it's not as problematic as carrying a live bladed weapon or obviously a loaded firearm, but it does sometimes make them a little nervous. Even if they did decide to make a report, I don't think many DA's would waste time prosecuting it unless there was some other action or reason why they felt you were a danger to the community :)
So, to avoid it in the future - put everything you can into your trunk, only carry your weapons when you are going to training and have your uniform and belt with you, if you're a dan carry your dan ID card with you, and if you are stopped, tell the officers immeidately that you are a martial artists going to or coming from training and that you have some martial arts weapons in your trunk/back seat etc. Keep your hands on the steering wheel when you tell them this so that you don't make them nervous for any reason. Most officers should appreciate the information and your explanation.
If you're school works with weapons a lot, you may also want to get to know you local law enforcement personnel. My association has a very close relationship with our local officers, and we do some joint self-defense seminars and community events with them. This helps to alleviate this type of potential tension when the officers are already familiar with your school and your instructor.
Hope this helps somewhat.
Ken C
9th Dan HapMoosaKi-Do
8th Dan TaeKwon-Do
7th Dan YongChul-Do
Reply:Just throw it in the trunk next time, don't think he could argue with that. They don't make too much of a fuss at all when you have a carry permit too, so why not get one? It's cheap.
Reply:If it's exposed in plain view, how can it be concealed? And why is he causing you trouble about this in any event?
You must live in one of those little dictatorship states back east, or possibly California out west, which are infested with liberals who pervert the law.
Or sadly, it appears there are some cops who have contempt for people's rights and make their own rules on the street.
Consider the irony of what people are suggesting here. On the back seat it's not concealed, and in the trunk it is concealed. Again, common sense is defied.
Why are there laws that prevent HONEST CITIZENS from being able to have means to protect themselves?
Reply:The staffs will be tough... I personally owned 2, one for the dojo and one for home. As far as the others, put them in the trunk. When asked if you have weapons in the car, say no.
They cannot search your vehicle without just cause, so don't give them any cause.
Another option would be to contact the state police department and ask them. Or perhaps your local judge.
Reply:Tell that cop to go back to the academy and study harder, plain sight to where it dose not present a threat to the officer is fine! You are almost allowed to have any kind of weapon as long as upon being pulled over you notify the officer of it's presence and DO NOT MOTION TOWARD IT just point. I had cops tell me alot of "next time this" and "next time that", and when the next time occurred I was told "well next time..." My point being they don't want you to carry them, but if you do put them in the trunk - just to be safe. If they want to search the car then tell them they are there, but just know you are not wrong and shouldn't be treated like you are!!!!
Reply:Contact an Attorney, you might need a pickup truck. If the class is with in walking distance ask the legal expert of choice, if walking with the item in the open would be in itself illegal. This problem is the result of the entertainment industry actively misrepresenting items as, instant death manifested.
A grass roots movement needs to do the benevolent act of educating the public, then once the benevolent organization becomes incorporated, 'twill be listed as a Secret-Society. When an organization grows there becomes the need to protect members from legal retaliations. The specifics of grass-roots organizations can become, legally-complex, so that also requires an attorney.
Reply:i always heard to keep it in your backseat. you shouldnt be able to reach them while driving(i doubt its easy to do a drive by with some sais though lol) and have it in the open so you arent "hiding" anything
but thats just what i thought im not knowledgeable on the actual law
Reply:Let him know that is not what the law says. I'm not sure how it exactly applies in SC, so you should consult an attorney Ask your instructor who their attorney is. They'll already be familiar with the laws as they pertain to you because they'd be familiar with your school. If your instructor doesn't have one, why are they teaching weaponry? That's a lawsuit waiting to happen.
The officer may be talking about your sais, which is where it geats tricky. In Virginia, martial arts weaponry is not considered concealed when carried by an actively training martial artist. Its no different than carrying a knife (of course, VA has a blade length law, but sais are not considered knives). SC may consider them like knives, which would mean that an "adult" sized pair of metal sais would definitely excede blade length laws. To get around that, you could get foam/rubber sais, or store them at your school (if allowed).
Hope that helps!
Reply:The cop cannot arrest you for the staff as for the sai's put them in the trunk he needs a reason to look in there same with the sticks although they are in cases and that fact can be argued that they are not in your hands and not being used in anyway to harm anyone. He was just being a jerk talk to your instructor and ask their advice on how to handel this problem.
Remember the name of a martial arts show about 10 years back or less.?
I remember the show had guys that fought martial arts battling it out for the belt. First they were selected for a preliminary round where they had to fight a bunch of guys and if they got hit three times they were done. Then the winners i think if i remember correctly went into a round where they had to fight the other main fighters that won there first rounds. The first rounds had two fighters versus a slew of guys and the one that did the best went on to the next round. And in the next round if they won they got a peace of the ultimate dragon belt or something like that. It came on tv on like saturdays or sunday mornings. In between the matches they showed the locker rooms and what went on back there it was kinda like wrestling but with martial arts. I remember one episode where the guys put red pepper in someones fighting gloves and he had to take of his glove in the middle of the match and ended up losing cause he hit some one with a bare hand.
Remember the name of a martial arts show about 10 years back or less.?
WMAC MASTERS
This show is all about the Martial Arts and features World Martial Arts Council superstars competing in matches to win Ki Symbols. Once a superstar has earned ten Ki Symbols they earn their first degree Dragon Belt and earn the right to challenge the champion and holder of the Dragon Star.
Every WMAC Master follows the "Code of the Dragon Star" which has eight tenets: Respect, Confidence, Wisdom, Honor, Compassion, Forgiveness, Courage and Discipline.
Reply:awwww man i luved that show when i was a kid........now it looks horrible lol
but yea wmac masters
Reply:wmac masters was the stuff!!!
when i was a kid it was honestly a huge motivation for me to practice martial arts...
plants flowers
Remember the name of a martial arts show about 10 years back or less.?
WMAC MASTERS
This show is all about the Martial Arts and features World Martial Arts Council superstars competing in matches to win Ki Symbols. Once a superstar has earned ten Ki Symbols they earn their first degree Dragon Belt and earn the right to challenge the champion and holder of the Dragon Star.
Every WMAC Master follows the "Code of the Dragon Star" which has eight tenets: Respect, Confidence, Wisdom, Honor, Compassion, Forgiveness, Courage and Discipline.
Reply:awwww man i luved that show when i was a kid........now it looks horrible lol
but yea wmac masters
Reply:wmac masters was the stuff!!!
when i was a kid it was honestly a huge motivation for me to practice martial arts...
plants flowers
Best practical martial arts?
If your purpose is to keep yourself safe from would be muggers/rapist/cuthroats, what martial arts should you study? I'm thinking that probably not one but a combination of different styles would be best suited. What styles would they be?
Best practical martial arts?
There is a subset of martial arts called "reality-based self defense" systems. These systems are designed specifically for real life altercations. Most martial arts, especially traditional martial arts like karate and tae kwon do, are very impractical for self-defense against a 250 pound street thug. They're designed for use in sparring and tournaments against other martial artists under controlled circumstances. Real life and the streets are the antithesis of a controlled environment.
RBSDs, like the one I study, called Contemporary Fighting Arts (CFA), teach skills that prepare you for any situation. In CFA we study awareness and de-escalation skills, varying levels of force, defending against multiple attackers, defending against larger attackers, groundfighting, makeshift weapons, knife defense, gun disarms, fighting in inclement conditions and much more. Check out my source for more information on how to find a good self-defense school.
Reply:I would just study boxing, because most street fights, muggins, ect. Go to punches never kicks or any of that technique stuff. It goes out the window
Reply:realistically I'd love to say all of them. But in all of them when you first start out you only learn enough to get your butt kicked.
If your more worried about instant self defense. take a self defense course then take martial arts.
Reply:Aikido: it is what most of the law enforcement depts. use to train their people. It is very simple to use and a 120 lbs woman can make a 250 man do flips (that is if she in trained and knows proper technique).
Reply:the most practicle style for self defence would be freestyle karate,but if you do any 1 style you will have weaknesses.to be able to defend yourself to the best of your ability you need to cross train in different styles .there is no best style but freestyle karate would be the most practicle single style.
Reply:I voted a thumbs up for cfanico and his answer.
traditional arts are not self defense arts, but sport arts or arts that follow a dogma from the old times. Close Quarter Combat and RBSD is the key.
and the knowledge of adrenaline response and the physiological changes.
Reply:I agree with some of the answers to a point. Boxing is good, until you get knocked to the ground, and I don't know if boxing teaches you what to do if a knife gets pulled. Let's not confuse traditional martial arts with sport martial arts, there is a difference. The traditional arts were battlefield tested, and have been around for centuries. Sport martial arts can be traced back to the 1940's and 50's. I have done reality-based training, and imagine my surprise when we were doing techniques from TRADITIONAL martial arts. So my best answer is only you know what's right for you. Go around to different seminars of different styles, practice what you like and works for you and forget the rest. I will add that you what the technique to come naturally, so that you don't have to stop and think about it.
Reply:You can do the styles that people here suggested earlier like CQC but they also forgot to list Krav Maga, the Israeli combat system where the main principle is to inflict the most damage as possible.
Reply:I'd have to tell you "to-shin do". Go to www.skhquest.com to check it out. It's designed for everyday real-life situations such as what you want it for. Based on a 900 year old proven art. Not a sporty competition art. :-)
Reply:first answer is wrong. I recomend muay thai kick boxing or freestyle karate ( I personally dont no much about freestyle karate but it seems really good as they basicly absorb stuff they like) also eagle claw kung fu will teach you to control your oponent.
Reply:I would go with Tae Kwon Do. It doesn't show you how to kill anybody, but it shows you a lot of moves that you can actually use it real life.
Plus, it's really fun. :]
Reply:There is no best art. The practicality of an art happens in the training methods. Make sure realistic contact drills are being done often. The people attacking must not fall down at the blink of an eye either.
Try to find a martial art instead some fly by night "self-defense" place.
Traditional arts are complete systems that have withstood the test of time while "Joe's Karate/Tae Kwon Do/ Defense Palace" may not have quality techniques.
As far as mixing martial arts, yes that can be effective if you study two complimentary styles in depth. But haphazardly throwing styles together may may not be very helpful.
A martial arts, in it's truest form should really be all encompassing. It should not need any supplemental training. It should be a complete system.
I hesitate to give you names of styles. Just because one style is effective does not mean that every school that teaches it does so effectively.
Reply:I feel that Krav Maga seems like a good close contact system to use. It uses more dirty techniques like groin strikes and eyes gouges but hey, it's either you or him.
Reply:aikido, best martial art full stop allows an individual to overpower several large men. search ueshiba on youtube if you don't believe me by the way he's only 5ft.
Reply:for me i think a taekwondo because they teach u how to punch and kick right and they do self defence and ground fightin atleast where i go we do so thats the most practical for me
Reply:I think Aikido.only
but it use time so much.
Best practical martial arts?
There is a subset of martial arts called "reality-based self defense" systems. These systems are designed specifically for real life altercations. Most martial arts, especially traditional martial arts like karate and tae kwon do, are very impractical for self-defense against a 250 pound street thug. They're designed for use in sparring and tournaments against other martial artists under controlled circumstances. Real life and the streets are the antithesis of a controlled environment.
RBSDs, like the one I study, called Contemporary Fighting Arts (CFA), teach skills that prepare you for any situation. In CFA we study awareness and de-escalation skills, varying levels of force, defending against multiple attackers, defending against larger attackers, groundfighting, makeshift weapons, knife defense, gun disarms, fighting in inclement conditions and much more. Check out my source for more information on how to find a good self-defense school.
Reply:I would just study boxing, because most street fights, muggins, ect. Go to punches never kicks or any of that technique stuff. It goes out the window
Reply:realistically I'd love to say all of them. But in all of them when you first start out you only learn enough to get your butt kicked.
If your more worried about instant self defense. take a self defense course then take martial arts.
Reply:Aikido: it is what most of the law enforcement depts. use to train their people. It is very simple to use and a 120 lbs woman can make a 250 man do flips (that is if she in trained and knows proper technique).
Reply:the most practicle style for self defence would be freestyle karate,but if you do any 1 style you will have weaknesses.to be able to defend yourself to the best of your ability you need to cross train in different styles .there is no best style but freestyle karate would be the most practicle single style.
Reply:I voted a thumbs up for cfanico and his answer.
traditional arts are not self defense arts, but sport arts or arts that follow a dogma from the old times. Close Quarter Combat and RBSD is the key.
and the knowledge of adrenaline response and the physiological changes.
Reply:I agree with some of the answers to a point. Boxing is good, until you get knocked to the ground, and I don't know if boxing teaches you what to do if a knife gets pulled. Let's not confuse traditional martial arts with sport martial arts, there is a difference. The traditional arts were battlefield tested, and have been around for centuries. Sport martial arts can be traced back to the 1940's and 50's. I have done reality-based training, and imagine my surprise when we were doing techniques from TRADITIONAL martial arts. So my best answer is only you know what's right for you. Go around to different seminars of different styles, practice what you like and works for you and forget the rest. I will add that you what the technique to come naturally, so that you don't have to stop and think about it.
Reply:You can do the styles that people here suggested earlier like CQC but they also forgot to list Krav Maga, the Israeli combat system where the main principle is to inflict the most damage as possible.
Reply:I'd have to tell you "to-shin do". Go to www.skhquest.com to check it out. It's designed for everyday real-life situations such as what you want it for. Based on a 900 year old proven art. Not a sporty competition art. :-)
Reply:first answer is wrong. I recomend muay thai kick boxing or freestyle karate ( I personally dont no much about freestyle karate but it seems really good as they basicly absorb stuff they like) also eagle claw kung fu will teach you to control your oponent.
Reply:I would go with Tae Kwon Do. It doesn't show you how to kill anybody, but it shows you a lot of moves that you can actually use it real life.
Plus, it's really fun. :]
Reply:There is no best art. The practicality of an art happens in the training methods. Make sure realistic contact drills are being done often. The people attacking must not fall down at the blink of an eye either.
Try to find a martial art instead some fly by night "self-defense" place.
Traditional arts are complete systems that have withstood the test of time while "Joe's Karate/Tae Kwon Do/ Defense Palace" may not have quality techniques.
As far as mixing martial arts, yes that can be effective if you study two complimentary styles in depth. But haphazardly throwing styles together may may not be very helpful.
A martial arts, in it's truest form should really be all encompassing. It should not need any supplemental training. It should be a complete system.
I hesitate to give you names of styles. Just because one style is effective does not mean that every school that teaches it does so effectively.
Reply:I feel that Krav Maga seems like a good close contact system to use. It uses more dirty techniques like groin strikes and eyes gouges but hey, it's either you or him.
Reply:aikido, best martial art full stop allows an individual to overpower several large men. search ueshiba on youtube if you don't believe me by the way he's only 5ft.
Reply:for me i think a taekwondo because they teach u how to punch and kick right and they do self defence and ground fightin atleast where i go we do so thats the most practical for me
Reply:I think Aikido.only
but it use time so much.
Is there a type of martial arts which is flowing & stretching?
I'm looking for some kind of martial arts which involves slow movements, stretching, etc. I'm not able to lay on the floor due to a back problem so stuff like pilates is out (I know thats not martial arts, just using it as an example), and I don't care for yoga.
Any ideas? thanks
Is there a type of martial arts which is flowing %26amp; stretching?
Tai Chi is very fluid movements and stretching. Everything is done in a standing postion too so you will not have to lay on the floor. It can be done no matter what your age is or any injuries you may have.
Reply:The Grand Ultimate Fist
Tai Chi Chuan :)
There are TONS of internal Tai Chi forms from the Traditional 24 posture to Double fan... it is interesting challanging, physicaly exhausting but with slow movments, an emphasis on balance, and agility.
Reply:tai chi
Reply:You might want to try tai chi chuan or tai chi
http://www.taichidepot.com/
Hope that helped
Reply:tai-chi-chuan, bagua,hsing-gi,try any internal chinese system and you will feel the benefits very quickly. log onto the bccma website for local classes
Reply:Tai chi.
Any ideas? thanks
Is there a type of martial arts which is flowing %26amp; stretching?
Tai Chi is very fluid movements and stretching. Everything is done in a standing postion too so you will not have to lay on the floor. It can be done no matter what your age is or any injuries you may have.
Reply:The Grand Ultimate Fist
Tai Chi Chuan :)
There are TONS of internal Tai Chi forms from the Traditional 24 posture to Double fan... it is interesting challanging, physicaly exhausting but with slow movments, an emphasis on balance, and agility.
Reply:tai chi
Reply:You might want to try tai chi chuan or tai chi
http://www.taichidepot.com/
Hope that helped
Reply:tai-chi-chuan, bagua,hsing-gi,try any internal chinese system and you will feel the benefits very quickly. log onto the bccma website for local classes
Reply:Tai chi.
Board breaking martial arts?
What kind of wood, and how thick is the kind you use in martial arts to punch through???
Thanx
Board breaking martial arts?
Its what they call one inch pine which is actually only 5/8 of an inch thick and it comes in several grades but usually a grade one, two or three is what is used. Grade one is more expensive and is what you would use for building something that you would want a good finish on and for the grain of the wood to show through. Grade two has only minor blemishes and no knots while grade three has knots and blemishes. An experienced breaker will not attempt to break a board on a knot since that area becomes very dense and is much harder and will not break. So you see many of the Mcdojos using grade one which is kiln dried and has no cracks and is easier to break since it is very dry and less dense than grades two and three. It is also easier to break a board that is dry as opposed to a green one. You can usually tell how dry a board is by the feel and weight of it. A green one will weigh about twice as much as a dried one of the same size and be two to three times harder to break. I usually buy grade two, cut them in advance and let them sit around getting dried out for several months, That way they break rather than rip and cause fewer cuts and gashes as your hands and feet travel through them. If it is a need on short notice type thing then I buy grade one, already dried, and no knots to worry about.
Reply:i forget what kind of wood it is, but they are usually around an inch thick.
Reply:Board breaking never impressed me because it's always broken with the grain of the wood. Same with cinder blocks. They are always broken where there is the least tensile strength.
Reply:3/4 inch pine. it is a nice, soft, safe wood. Looks tough, but may as well be styrofoam. I am the father of two black-belts in tkd and the board breaking is a rule for advancement. It is mostly aim. If you want practice, buy a breakable practice board. They are plastic and break apart like wood would. You can re-attach them and keep trying.
Reply:Most of the board breaking is done with pine and is usally any where between half an inch to three quaters of an inch. This is for adult breaking children boards are even thinner.
Reply:Plywood for extra challenge. Prolly 3-5 inches.
Reply:My dojo uses 12 x 1 pine planks available at your local hardware store. The adults' are cut to 12" lengths. For the kids, we go down from 3-6".
Board breaking is mostly done for fun and to build confidence. It shows them that with focus and technique, they can actually do some damage. We don't, however, get into concrete blocks or multiple boards.
Reply:In my school I have my students use pine wood with no knots. Each piece of wood is 1" thick and the number used in each break is determined by their belt ranking. I.E my black belts are required to do a 4" break using a hand technique and 4" break using a kicking technique. But like I said.... total thickness is based on belt level.
Reply:First off, whether you or someone you know is a black belt in anything or not, especially TKD. Never mention it to anyone, this is thought of as impolite and bragging to its worst in traditional martial arts.
Board breaking is NOT a traditional practice in martial arts. However, the application can be used to measure your strength (not aim, if you strike correctly you'll break it).
1 Board = Arm, 2 Boards = upper arm, 3 boards = a leg. This is with someone holding them. Not the whole pencil spacer I can punch through twenty boards thing.
It does look cool and you feel great punching through one (Gratifying). Go with 1 Inch Pinewood (12" x 12") . It's cheap and you can break it without injuring yourself, but if you don't strike right you'll feel it.
My buddy tried oak . . . he doesn't want to talk about it . . . and he'll never try it again . . . I suggest not trying it either.
Reply:Typically their pine boards about 1/4" - 1/2" thick. You can use any kind of wood though. I would not use a very hard wood like an oak though if you is just starting out.
Reply:Much depends on the martial style, and the purpose of the break. Typically for testing, training, and normal demonstration purposes the wood is 12"x12" pine that is 3/4" thick. Standard 12"w x 5' or 6' long pine planks are simply cut in 12" squares to create the boards.
Breaking has many purposes. At the beginning levels it helps to focus the student on effective technique, it helps them to focus their mind and believe in themselves, it helps them to concentrate and meet what is a mental challenge for most. Breaking a single pine board is fairly simple for most people, and as others have pointed out, you simply apply enough force to cause shearing of the grain.
Breaking can include other materials which increase the difficulty of the break, and for seniors these continue to develop weapon use, power distribution and effective application, proper concentration and exclusion of distractions, adn a greater understanding of the individuals ability and force potential.
The watchword most instructors always remind students of when breaking is the familiar "It doesn't hurt if you break, it only hurts if you DON'T break." In other words, if you believe in yourself, apply enough force, and hit the board in a reasonable place (not the holders hands) then it will break and you'll be fine. If you lose faith, don't apply enough force, or hit the wrong spot and the board does not break, all the energy you exerted will be returned to you.
You should really only consider breaking with your instructor/s supervision. They can ensure everything is set up properly, the materials to be broken are suitable, and that you have a good idea of how to complete the break without hurting yourself. I have seen people bring hardwood boards, reinforced bricks, and other crazy things to try and break before.
In demonstrations, purely for the entertainment of the crowd, people will break many other materials such as blocks of ice (they are notoriously variable in density - and very messy as they melt), river rocks (very hard to hold on to and requires a solid edge like an anvil to force the shearing point), baseball bats, and roofing tiles.
I include breaking for all adults in my TaeKwon-Do programs from yellow belt on, but we also have a full training and instruction program that teaches students how to select materials, set up the break, protect the holders, and execute the break successfully and respectfully.
Hope this helps
Ken C
9th Dan HapMoosaKi-Do
8th Dan TaeKwon-Do
7th Dan YongChul-Do
Reply:mostly 12x12x1 pine, but we did have 12x12x2 oak and it will break :)
Thanx
Board breaking martial arts?
Its what they call one inch pine which is actually only 5/8 of an inch thick and it comes in several grades but usually a grade one, two or three is what is used. Grade one is more expensive and is what you would use for building something that you would want a good finish on and for the grain of the wood to show through. Grade two has only minor blemishes and no knots while grade three has knots and blemishes. An experienced breaker will not attempt to break a board on a knot since that area becomes very dense and is much harder and will not break. So you see many of the Mcdojos using grade one which is kiln dried and has no cracks and is easier to break since it is very dry and less dense than grades two and three. It is also easier to break a board that is dry as opposed to a green one. You can usually tell how dry a board is by the feel and weight of it. A green one will weigh about twice as much as a dried one of the same size and be two to three times harder to break. I usually buy grade two, cut them in advance and let them sit around getting dried out for several months, That way they break rather than rip and cause fewer cuts and gashes as your hands and feet travel through them. If it is a need on short notice type thing then I buy grade one, already dried, and no knots to worry about.
Reply:i forget what kind of wood it is, but they are usually around an inch thick.
Reply:Board breaking never impressed me because it's always broken with the grain of the wood. Same with cinder blocks. They are always broken where there is the least tensile strength.
Reply:3/4 inch pine. it is a nice, soft, safe wood. Looks tough, but may as well be styrofoam. I am the father of two black-belts in tkd and the board breaking is a rule for advancement. It is mostly aim. If you want practice, buy a breakable practice board. They are plastic and break apart like wood would. You can re-attach them and keep trying.
Reply:Most of the board breaking is done with pine and is usally any where between half an inch to three quaters of an inch. This is for adult breaking children boards are even thinner.
Reply:Plywood for extra challenge. Prolly 3-5 inches.
Reply:My dojo uses 12 x 1 pine planks available at your local hardware store. The adults' are cut to 12" lengths. For the kids, we go down from 3-6".
Board breaking is mostly done for fun and to build confidence. It shows them that with focus and technique, they can actually do some damage. We don't, however, get into concrete blocks or multiple boards.
Reply:In my school I have my students use pine wood with no knots. Each piece of wood is 1" thick and the number used in each break is determined by their belt ranking. I.E my black belts are required to do a 4" break using a hand technique and 4" break using a kicking technique. But like I said.... total thickness is based on belt level.
Reply:First off, whether you or someone you know is a black belt in anything or not, especially TKD. Never mention it to anyone, this is thought of as impolite and bragging to its worst in traditional martial arts.
Board breaking is NOT a traditional practice in martial arts. However, the application can be used to measure your strength (not aim, if you strike correctly you'll break it).
1 Board = Arm, 2 Boards = upper arm, 3 boards = a leg. This is with someone holding them. Not the whole pencil spacer I can punch through twenty boards thing.
It does look cool and you feel great punching through one (Gratifying). Go with 1 Inch Pinewood (12" x 12") . It's cheap and you can break it without injuring yourself, but if you don't strike right you'll feel it.
My buddy tried oak . . . he doesn't want to talk about it . . . and he'll never try it again . . . I suggest not trying it either.
Reply:Typically their pine boards about 1/4" - 1/2" thick. You can use any kind of wood though. I would not use a very hard wood like an oak though if you is just starting out.
Reply:Much depends on the martial style, and the purpose of the break. Typically for testing, training, and normal demonstration purposes the wood is 12"x12" pine that is 3/4" thick. Standard 12"w x 5' or 6' long pine planks are simply cut in 12" squares to create the boards.
Breaking has many purposes. At the beginning levels it helps to focus the student on effective technique, it helps them to focus their mind and believe in themselves, it helps them to concentrate and meet what is a mental challenge for most. Breaking a single pine board is fairly simple for most people, and as others have pointed out, you simply apply enough force to cause shearing of the grain.
Breaking can include other materials which increase the difficulty of the break, and for seniors these continue to develop weapon use, power distribution and effective application, proper concentration and exclusion of distractions, adn a greater understanding of the individuals ability and force potential.
The watchword most instructors always remind students of when breaking is the familiar "It doesn't hurt if you break, it only hurts if you DON'T break." In other words, if you believe in yourself, apply enough force, and hit the board in a reasonable place (not the holders hands) then it will break and you'll be fine. If you lose faith, don't apply enough force, or hit the wrong spot and the board does not break, all the energy you exerted will be returned to you.
You should really only consider breaking with your instructor/s supervision. They can ensure everything is set up properly, the materials to be broken are suitable, and that you have a good idea of how to complete the break without hurting yourself. I have seen people bring hardwood boards, reinforced bricks, and other crazy things to try and break before.
In demonstrations, purely for the entertainment of the crowd, people will break many other materials such as blocks of ice (they are notoriously variable in density - and very messy as they melt), river rocks (very hard to hold on to and requires a solid edge like an anvil to force the shearing point), baseball bats, and roofing tiles.
I include breaking for all adults in my TaeKwon-Do programs from yellow belt on, but we also have a full training and instruction program that teaches students how to select materials, set up the break, protect the holders, and execute the break successfully and respectfully.
Hope this helps
Ken C
9th Dan HapMoosaKi-Do
8th Dan TaeKwon-Do
7th Dan YongChul-Do
Reply:mostly 12x12x1 pine, but we did have 12x12x2 oak and it will break :)
Getting into martial arts.?
I would like to perhaps get into the martial arts. Is there a style that is a mix of multiple styles. something like Chun Kuk Do. if not what is close to something like that. ive always been interested just now have the time and money.
Getting into martial arts.?
Make a list of dojos you would like to visit, and watch classes there. Watch the classes at each dojo on different nights. Talk to the instructor to determine the curriculum, and then choose the one you like most. Observing for yourself is the best way to determine the right art for you.
Reply:Try Mixed Martial Arts. MMA mixes Kickboxing techniques, Jiu Jitsu, wrestling, judo, boxing and much more. There's lots of grappling in MMA so it shouldn't be a problem. You'll get in great shape as well.
Reply:Kajukembo, Shidokan karate, both have striking and grappling.
Also mixed martial arts.
Reply:You can go to Tae Kwon do or MMA.
I am currently in Tae Kwon do and I love it. But in the mean time
Look at individual schools you are interested in. And go to see if you really want to join the school. Also talk with the instructor they are willing to answer any questions you may have about their school. See if there is a deal going on.
For me I am able to go to TKD with $30.00 for 30 days plus a free uniform.
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Getting into martial arts.?
Make a list of dojos you would like to visit, and watch classes there. Watch the classes at each dojo on different nights. Talk to the instructor to determine the curriculum, and then choose the one you like most. Observing for yourself is the best way to determine the right art for you.
Reply:Try Mixed Martial Arts. MMA mixes Kickboxing techniques, Jiu Jitsu, wrestling, judo, boxing and much more. There's lots of grappling in MMA so it shouldn't be a problem. You'll get in great shape as well.
Reply:Kajukembo, Shidokan karate, both have striking and grappling.
Also mixed martial arts.
Reply:You can go to Tae Kwon do or MMA.
I am currently in Tae Kwon do and I love it. But in the mean time
Look at individual schools you are interested in. And go to see if you really want to join the school. Also talk with the instructor they are willing to answer any questions you may have about their school. See if there is a deal going on.
For me I am able to go to TKD with $30.00 for 30 days plus a free uniform.
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GYM OR Martial Arts?
Do you agree with this ?
I want to gain appearance -- %26gt; i go to the gym.
I want to gain the respect form the others --%26gt; i train martial arts.
and also Explain the psychological reasons why you do each one of them. Thanks.
GYM OR Martial Arts?
Or a third option, you participate because you LIKE it, regardless of what others think.
I do my workouts and sports for my own benefit.
Reply:I think if you work hard in the gym you can gain respect as well. I can leg press more than most men at the gym and my personal trainer is impressed with my dedication, stating there are few peole that work as hard as I do in that gym. I have quite a few "friends" that ask me how much I did today and that encourages me and makes me proud. I thinkthey respectme as well for working hard. I see it (the slackers) every day, the girls and guys that walk around trying not to break a sweat.
I think it depends on the person and their behavior. I also do martial arts through the gym but it's not as intense or structured as it is outside of it. The respect is from a completely different level. Martial arts teachs you respect for your combat, your body, mind and others. The gym is much more individualized and internalized unless you are a competitor you generally don't get recognition...your "level" is not marked by a colored belt and you generally don't "study" to lift weight (exceptions abound on this level but I am talking GENERAL here). Your gym progression and respect is about how YOU feel about yourself. If you are rewarded with an enhanced physique, great...in martial arts, your rewarded by winning a competition, completing a task to the satisfaction of a "judge" before they allow you to progress and with BOTH, the respect is in the ACHIEVEMENT.
Reply:I want a workout without any other things to think about --%26gt; I go to the gym
I want a physical and mental workout, and I want to develop self-esteem and self-respect --%26gt; I train in martial arts
Going to the gym generally works out your body, but not necessarily your mind, and isn't accompanied by any philosophy. Martial arts is. One isn't necessarily better than the other, but they are different.
I want to gain appearance -- %26gt; i go to the gym.
I want to gain the respect form the others --%26gt; i train martial arts.
and also Explain the psychological reasons why you do each one of them. Thanks.
GYM OR Martial Arts?
Or a third option, you participate because you LIKE it, regardless of what others think.
I do my workouts and sports for my own benefit.
Reply:I think if you work hard in the gym you can gain respect as well. I can leg press more than most men at the gym and my personal trainer is impressed with my dedication, stating there are few peole that work as hard as I do in that gym. I have quite a few "friends" that ask me how much I did today and that encourages me and makes me proud. I thinkthey respectme as well for working hard. I see it (the slackers) every day, the girls and guys that walk around trying not to break a sweat.
I think it depends on the person and their behavior. I also do martial arts through the gym but it's not as intense or structured as it is outside of it. The respect is from a completely different level. Martial arts teachs you respect for your combat, your body, mind and others. The gym is much more individualized and internalized unless you are a competitor you generally don't get recognition...your "level" is not marked by a colored belt and you generally don't "study" to lift weight (exceptions abound on this level but I am talking GENERAL here). Your gym progression and respect is about how YOU feel about yourself. If you are rewarded with an enhanced physique, great...in martial arts, your rewarded by winning a competition, completing a task to the satisfaction of a "judge" before they allow you to progress and with BOTH, the respect is in the ACHIEVEMENT.
Reply:I want a workout without any other things to think about --%26gt; I go to the gym
I want a physical and mental workout, and I want to develop self-esteem and self-respect --%26gt; I train in martial arts
Going to the gym generally works out your body, but not necessarily your mind, and isn't accompanied by any philosophy. Martial arts is. One isn't necessarily better than the other, but they are different.
Return to martial arts after knee surgery?
I recently had surgery on my knee to reconstruct the acl and lcl. I was wondering if anyone had had a similar surgery and then was able to return to martial arts with good results.
Return to martial arts after knee surgery?
Over the course of the past decade I've had both my ACLs reconstructed. First, you need to fully complete your rehab. I cannot stress how vital this is to getting your leg back up to a simple functional level (walking, bending, applying weight, etc.). Also, while you should listen to your doctor, my orthopedic surgeon told me I'd should return to martial arts. That was just over six years ago and I'm still working out on a constant basis.
When you are both able and ready to return to martial arts it is important to remember that your knee will never be the same. You'll need to be extremely watchful over it, especially in the beginning. For example, you might need to slightly alter the way you do turns and certain kicks so you don't torque it incorrectly as well as making sure that your sparring partner goes easy on your leg (if legs are open targets during sparring).
All in all, if you remember to take care of yourself and remember that your had major reconstructive knee surgery, you should be fine.
Reply:After you recovered completely? You should be able to come back, alot of people don't know if they've completely recovered further injuring themselves even worse then before. You should know best if you're ready or not. Good luck to ya.
Reply:Best advice is listen to your doctor first, then listen to your body. Also you don't mention what style you take. Do you have kata or forms? If so you can just stand and go through the hand motions in sequance. Are you recovered enough maybe you could work on stances, with no kicks or contact.
It is very hard to train around injuries, but it can be done. If you are ready for nothing else, just think about your kata's, self defense, etc. and picture you doingthem in your head. Not what you want to be doing but it is better than nothing.
Reply:You need to be very careful. It will take the knee years to heal. Make sure you co-ordinate your work-outs with the doctors orders. Rehab is a must.
You will be able to do martial arts but you may have to adjust your movements and relearn your style slightly.
Reply:My sifu had to get the miniscus in his knee re-shaped. He tore some of the miniscus after an exhibtion. it took him about a year to get comfortable again. That was several years ago and it stills bothers him every few months. Iam also going through a similar situation. I dislocated myshoulder.
Do alot fo rehab exercises, even after your knee has healed to ensure it stays strengthened. Also be sure to take plenty of joint supplements. Ive heard about an herb called "Solomons seal" that is suppossed to work wonders.
I also had "prolotherapy" done, and it seemed to help out.
Good luck......and take your time
Reply:I had reconstructive surgery on my left knee. It took me 6 months before my doctor allowed me to get back into karate and he told me no knee strickes and take it very easy the first month. It was very difficult to get back into it. You won't kick as good as you used to. Probably won't be in the same cardio shape. But with hard work you will get back to where u were.
Reply:My mma coach had the same surgery. He took it light and let it heal, but he's back to 100% now- fully rolling in jiu-jitsu and throwing full power kicking in thai boxing. Just listen to the doc, let it heal, and you'll be all good.
Reply:I have had similar surgery. I had to have my ACL reconstructed along with a plastic patella and meniscus put in. The cartallige that was left had to be shaved down and there is not much left.
It took me a while to get back to the gym. Do all of your physical therapy exercises and when they get easy push yourself a little bit farther. Do not rush things. My knee was not stable again for almost 8 months. You will have to get the muscles surrounding your knee strong again before you can safely go back to the gym and seriously train.
Now that I am back I am retraining my body and I have to watch out not to over extend on my round kicks. When I make contact my lower leg tends to stop at the point of impact but the rest of my body continues to travel forward. This puts a lot of strain on the tendons and ligaments in my knee.
It will call for you to make small adjustments in your stance and how you throw kicks, but nothing too major.
Don't worry. You will be back before you know it.
Good Luck.
Reply:I had arthroscopic surgery 15 months ago, I had a medial ligament repaired and 40% of both carliages removed. I was advised to only do light excersise for 4 months, and progressively increase.
I am now able to cycle for 4 hours, and run upto 12 miles without trouble. However, using my leg for either stance or as the kicking leg (against a punch-bag causes pain and stiffness the next day, (and a popping sound which I'm told is tearing of the scar).
It may be my age (46) or a direct result of the injury I don't know but my leg is now usless with regards to martial Arts.
Reply:i had a very similar surgery.....reconstructive on ACL and MCL and torn meniscus. Best advice i can give you is do as much physical therapy as possible and stick to the excercises your PT gives you cause those make the difference. Your gonna end up losing size and strength on that leg so going to the gym and doing some weightlifting really helps you getting back. You'll probably be out for 6-8 months depending on how your therapy goes and getting back into martial arts id say around the 9th month....thats about how long it took me and i train MMA. Just be ready for soreness and stiffness once you start up again but that goes away after awhile just do your stretches other than that if you do your therapy you should be fine and be able to get back to how you were. Hope that helps..good luck.
Return to martial arts after knee surgery?
Over the course of the past decade I've had both my ACLs reconstructed. First, you need to fully complete your rehab. I cannot stress how vital this is to getting your leg back up to a simple functional level (walking, bending, applying weight, etc.). Also, while you should listen to your doctor, my orthopedic surgeon told me I'd should return to martial arts. That was just over six years ago and I'm still working out on a constant basis.
When you are both able and ready to return to martial arts it is important to remember that your knee will never be the same. You'll need to be extremely watchful over it, especially in the beginning. For example, you might need to slightly alter the way you do turns and certain kicks so you don't torque it incorrectly as well as making sure that your sparring partner goes easy on your leg (if legs are open targets during sparring).
All in all, if you remember to take care of yourself and remember that your had major reconstructive knee surgery, you should be fine.
Reply:After you recovered completely? You should be able to come back, alot of people don't know if they've completely recovered further injuring themselves even worse then before. You should know best if you're ready or not. Good luck to ya.
Reply:Best advice is listen to your doctor first, then listen to your body. Also you don't mention what style you take. Do you have kata or forms? If so you can just stand and go through the hand motions in sequance. Are you recovered enough maybe you could work on stances, with no kicks or contact.
It is very hard to train around injuries, but it can be done. If you are ready for nothing else, just think about your kata's, self defense, etc. and picture you doingthem in your head. Not what you want to be doing but it is better than nothing.
Reply:You need to be very careful. It will take the knee years to heal. Make sure you co-ordinate your work-outs with the doctors orders. Rehab is a must.
You will be able to do martial arts but you may have to adjust your movements and relearn your style slightly.
Reply:My sifu had to get the miniscus in his knee re-shaped. He tore some of the miniscus after an exhibtion. it took him about a year to get comfortable again. That was several years ago and it stills bothers him every few months. Iam also going through a similar situation. I dislocated myshoulder.
Do alot fo rehab exercises, even after your knee has healed to ensure it stays strengthened. Also be sure to take plenty of joint supplements. Ive heard about an herb called "Solomons seal" that is suppossed to work wonders.
I also had "prolotherapy" done, and it seemed to help out.
Good luck......and take your time
Reply:I had reconstructive surgery on my left knee. It took me 6 months before my doctor allowed me to get back into karate and he told me no knee strickes and take it very easy the first month. It was very difficult to get back into it. You won't kick as good as you used to. Probably won't be in the same cardio shape. But with hard work you will get back to where u were.
Reply:My mma coach had the same surgery. He took it light and let it heal, but he's back to 100% now- fully rolling in jiu-jitsu and throwing full power kicking in thai boxing. Just listen to the doc, let it heal, and you'll be all good.
Reply:I have had similar surgery. I had to have my ACL reconstructed along with a plastic patella and meniscus put in. The cartallige that was left had to be shaved down and there is not much left.
It took me a while to get back to the gym. Do all of your physical therapy exercises and when they get easy push yourself a little bit farther. Do not rush things. My knee was not stable again for almost 8 months. You will have to get the muscles surrounding your knee strong again before you can safely go back to the gym and seriously train.
Now that I am back I am retraining my body and I have to watch out not to over extend on my round kicks. When I make contact my lower leg tends to stop at the point of impact but the rest of my body continues to travel forward. This puts a lot of strain on the tendons and ligaments in my knee.
It will call for you to make small adjustments in your stance and how you throw kicks, but nothing too major.
Don't worry. You will be back before you know it.
Good Luck.
Reply:I had arthroscopic surgery 15 months ago, I had a medial ligament repaired and 40% of both carliages removed. I was advised to only do light excersise for 4 months, and progressively increase.
I am now able to cycle for 4 hours, and run upto 12 miles without trouble. However, using my leg for either stance or as the kicking leg (against a punch-bag causes pain and stiffness the next day, (and a popping sound which I'm told is tearing of the scar).
It may be my age (46) or a direct result of the injury I don't know but my leg is now usless with regards to martial Arts.
Reply:i had a very similar surgery.....reconstructive on ACL and MCL and torn meniscus. Best advice i can give you is do as much physical therapy as possible and stick to the excercises your PT gives you cause those make the difference. Your gonna end up losing size and strength on that leg so going to the gym and doing some weightlifting really helps you getting back. You'll probably be out for 6-8 months depending on how your therapy goes and getting back into martial arts id say around the 9th month....thats about how long it took me and i train MMA. Just be ready for soreness and stiffness once you start up again but that goes away after awhile just do your stretches other than that if you do your therapy you should be fine and be able to get back to how you were. Hope that helps..good luck.
Korean style martial arts?
i would like to know what the korean martial arts syles are so that i could practice them so i have more styles for when i enter MMA. so plz post them?
Korean style martial arts?
There are more but the big ones are:
Hapkido, Kuk Sool Won, Taekwondo, Tang Soo Do
why are you interested in only Korean arts? Could you perhaps be Korean??
Reply:Lol, if you want to enter MMA, you need grappling and striking. Grappling, you can't go wrong with 6 years or more of BJJ, and 2 years or more of wrestling.
Then when it comes to striking, you can't go wrong with Full contact Karate, Muay Thai, or boxing....
It's not really hard.
Reply:I'll be the first and respond with the most obvious: TaeKwonDo is by far Korea's best-known and most popular martial arts style.
Reply:The two biggest practiced in Korea are Tae Kwon Do and Hap Ki Do, but there are a ton of others that are difficult to find in the west. Of those two, I would lean toward hapkido (but I'm biased) because there is a bigger emphasis on movement principles (bastardized Aikido for the most part) that are more practical and applicable to practical situations.
I practiced both at different times over 6 years in Korea and found Hapkido to be more diverse and interesting and I use a lot more hapkido principles in my MMA training than Tae Kwon Do...a LOT more.
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Reply:Try Tang Soo Do/Soo Bahk Do for the kicking aspect. Boxing for hand, Brazilian Ju-Jitsu for ground work
Reply:Well if I had to pick one I would say Hapkido. But with saying that it would also depend that Hapkido school's curicculum. Not all Hapkido schools are the same. I've been doing HKD for 10 yrs now and in our school we're about as close to MMA as you can get in a semi-traditional format. Meaning that we do a lot of grappling and ground work,over the years I seen many HKD schools that dont grapple at all. So it would boil down to what THEY teach. You'll have to check out your local schools and watch what they do..otherwise if you going to do MMA then go to an MMA gym..good luck keep training.
Reply:Might want to try something a little different to give you an edge like
http://www.kuksoolwon.com/
or Hwrang Do
Just a thought.
Reply:Just like what the guy above said:
Hapkido, Kuk Sool Won, Taekwondo, and Tang Soo Do
There is also Ho Kuk Mu Sul. This martial art is a combination of several Korean martial arts...
I think using Taekkyun in real fight would be awesome. Fighting while looking as if you're dancing and beating up your opponent would be hella tight.... Their kicks and moves are really powerful and fast but its hard to tell because its very smooth... Its a Korean traditional martial art...
There are also ancient Korean martial arts which were used by brave warriors. Subak, Hwarangdo, Yusul, Shippalgi, Ssireum,............. Seonmudo, Bulmudo, SeonKwanMoo, Chung Do Mu Sool Won, Hedong Gumdo, Dahn Moodo, Charyuk, and many more... most of them are using weapons but they also use barehands... %26gt;%26lt;
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Korean style martial arts?
There are more but the big ones are:
Hapkido, Kuk Sool Won, Taekwondo, Tang Soo Do
why are you interested in only Korean arts? Could you perhaps be Korean??
Reply:Lol, if you want to enter MMA, you need grappling and striking. Grappling, you can't go wrong with 6 years or more of BJJ, and 2 years or more of wrestling.
Then when it comes to striking, you can't go wrong with Full contact Karate, Muay Thai, or boxing....
It's not really hard.
Reply:I'll be the first and respond with the most obvious: TaeKwonDo is by far Korea's best-known and most popular martial arts style.
Reply:The two biggest practiced in Korea are Tae Kwon Do and Hap Ki Do, but there are a ton of others that are difficult to find in the west. Of those two, I would lean toward hapkido (but I'm biased) because there is a bigger emphasis on movement principles (bastardized Aikido for the most part) that are more practical and applicable to practical situations.
I practiced both at different times over 6 years in Korea and found Hapkido to be more diverse and interesting and I use a lot more hapkido principles in my MMA training than Tae Kwon Do...a LOT more.
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Reply:Try Tang Soo Do/Soo Bahk Do for the kicking aspect. Boxing for hand, Brazilian Ju-Jitsu for ground work
Reply:Well if I had to pick one I would say Hapkido. But with saying that it would also depend that Hapkido school's curicculum. Not all Hapkido schools are the same. I've been doing HKD for 10 yrs now and in our school we're about as close to MMA as you can get in a semi-traditional format. Meaning that we do a lot of grappling and ground work,over the years I seen many HKD schools that dont grapple at all. So it would boil down to what THEY teach. You'll have to check out your local schools and watch what they do..otherwise if you going to do MMA then go to an MMA gym..good luck keep training.
Reply:Might want to try something a little different to give you an edge like
http://www.kuksoolwon.com/
or Hwrang Do
Just a thought.
Reply:Just like what the guy above said:
Hapkido, Kuk Sool Won, Taekwondo, and Tang Soo Do
There is also Ho Kuk Mu Sul. This martial art is a combination of several Korean martial arts...
I think using Taekkyun in real fight would be awesome. Fighting while looking as if you're dancing and beating up your opponent would be hella tight.... Their kicks and moves are really powerful and fast but its hard to tell because its very smooth... Its a Korean traditional martial art...
There are also ancient Korean martial arts which were used by brave warriors. Subak, Hwarangdo, Yusul, Shippalgi, Ssireum,............. Seonmudo, Bulmudo, SeonKwanMoo, Chung Do Mu Sool Won, Hedong Gumdo, Dahn Moodo, Charyuk, and many more... most of them are using weapons but they also use barehands... %26gt;%26lt;
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Recommend a Martial Arts school in Northern NJ?
I'm looking to get back into Martial Arts, but I need a good school. I'm already a Taekwondo blackbelt. I'm trying to avoid TKD, because I cannot stomach sport/olympic TKD. Perferably in or surrounding Jersey City (NYC is out of the question). Muay Thai, Capoeira, BJJ, etc...
Recommend a Martial Arts school in Northern NJ?
I know of a Filipino Master named Arnulfo "Dong" Cuesta in the Jersey City area. He is a serious practitioner. Master of Doce Pares(Doh-seh Pah-rehs) meaning 12 pairs.
Anyone who knows anything about the Filipino arts knows of Dong Cuesta. Here is his site : http://doceparesusa.com/
He is the only person I would recommend in your area.
Recommend a Martial Arts school in Northern NJ?
I know of a Filipino Master named Arnulfo "Dong" Cuesta in the Jersey City area. He is a serious practitioner. Master of Doce Pares(Doh-seh Pah-rehs) meaning 12 pairs.
Anyone who knows anything about the Filipino arts knows of Dong Cuesta. Here is his site : http://doceparesusa.com/
He is the only person I would recommend in your area.
How many martial arts tuition billing companies were in operation during each of the past seven years?
I am seeking to identify a 7 year trend in the quantity of companys offerring tuition billing services for martial arts studios. Has the total number of tuition billing companies in operation increased or decreased during the last seven years?
How many martial arts tuition billing companies were in operation during each of the past seven years?
I am not sure where you would find this.
Do you know some martial arts billing companies now?
They might be able to tell you how long they have been in operation and they could lead you to there predicesors? Good luck!
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How many martial arts tuition billing companies were in operation during each of the past seven years?
I am not sure where you would find this.
Do you know some martial arts billing companies now?
They might be able to tell you how long they have been in operation and they could lead you to there predicesors? Good luck!
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Looking for Martial Arts/Kung Fu/Karate Movie?
I have been looking for an old Kong fu/karate movie that I cant remember the title of. I remember one of the lead characters was the kings (I think) bodyguard and everytime he had to fight he would sling his long ponytail around his neck and proceed to kick butt. At the end of the movie he died standing up while he was fighting; also he always wore white in the movie. This is one those old martial arts movies where the characters had the ability to fly/jump into trees and buildings. If anyone can remember the title of this movie and where I can get it I’d be ever so grateful thanks!
Looking for Martial Arts/Kung Fu/Karate Movie?
....the slinging of the long ponytail by someone dressed in white, strikes a most familiar cord; there's a good possibility that you're talking about the dynamic 1996 kung-fu actioner, entitled "Tai Chi II"
...check out the webpages below, for further details!!!
Reply:That sounds like several movies I have seen. I own 92 Chinese and 54 Japanese movies. Some require a special all-region DVD player. Check the websites for taiseng and hkflix. They both have a great selection of martial arts films. If you remember any actors, you can click their names and see all of the movies they are in. I will look at some of my movies. I may own the one you like.
Looking for Martial Arts/Kung Fu/Karate Movie?
....the slinging of the long ponytail by someone dressed in white, strikes a most familiar cord; there's a good possibility that you're talking about the dynamic 1996 kung-fu actioner, entitled "Tai Chi II"
...check out the webpages below, for further details!!!
Reply:That sounds like several movies I have seen. I own 92 Chinese and 54 Japanese movies. Some require a special all-region DVD player. Check the websites for taiseng and hkflix. They both have a great selection of martial arts films. If you remember any actors, you can click their names and see all of the movies they are in. I will look at some of my movies. I may own the one you like.
Is it right for a martial artist to screw a man's family, friends, and martial arts family ... ?
Is it right for a martial artist to screw a man's family, friends, and martial arts family and walk off with deeds from a man's deceased wife and physician?
Any martial arts club and federation supporting such things should be disowned!
The martial arts practice was based on honor codes.
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Is it right for a martial artist to screw a man's family, friends, and martial arts family ... ?
You are hurting,I can hear it.
It is "never" right for a Martial Artist to do anything that leans to the "negative".No "True" Martial Artist would ever even think along these lines.
We are the ones that always help the elderly neighbor by putting their trash cans out,loaning out their tools,helping people move, %26amp; sticking up for the kid getting picked on.
I am 51 years old,30+ years in Martial Arts.A life spent trying to always do the right thing,be fair,be honest. I am considered by others to be a Martial Artist.
It is "impossible" that a "Martial Artist" did these things,if so they would not be Martial Artist.
I think you have confused "Martial Artist" with some Karate guy so to speak.A jerk that has trained in the physical aspects and took a pass on the mental %26amp; ethical aspects of the arts.
A 'true" Martial Artist observes the following "tenants"
Ethics
Honesty
Character
Humility
Reply:To phil, TONY, and everyone else. I gave everyone a star, no matter what they said. This a not "loaded" question with an ulterior motive as you might say. In the Asian and Chinese culture, four thousand years of it, justice is had by laying the grounds for prosecution of the wrongdoers. Report It
Reply:And people should always be civil. I ask questions that pertains to martial arts culture and to the rites of succession. I ask questions about ethics and the legitimacy of one's heritage and succession. These are good general questions that all martial artist should know. Report It
Reply:Martial arts is not just fighting and a matter of pride and profits. Culture and a man's name is involved as well as his legacy. If a man was great, would his successor make it know? If a man was great, should that man share what he has acquired with the man's Report It
Reply:family to insure a proper succession? Do you now dismiss everyone in the family and martial arts tree? These are questions of ethics that I ask and you guys should know the answer(s)! Report It
Reply:Hey guy, this might be a question for your local district attorney's office. Try the government listings in front of your local phonebook. Sometimes the pages are blue for government.
Reply:It's not just wrong for a martial artist, it's wrong for everyone.
One sure way to know if something is wrong is to decide if you would want that action done to yourself. If the answer is no, then the action is wrong. I do not lie, cheat, steal, etc. because I do not want these things done to me. The Golden Rule always applies.
Reply:Hey Max, what's goin' on with you? Not a Max style question, keep it up and you wont be hearing anymore from me mate? cheers.
Reply:This is obviously a"loaded" question with an ulterior motive. if you are angry and feel offended, please seek assistance from the proper authorities legally as well as seek help emotionally for yourself. you sound as though you are hurt and angry. Please get help for yourself.
Reply:That person has no Morales and is a disgrace!
Reply:It is not right for anyone to engage in such practice, it does not apply only to martial artists, but to any human beings.
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Any martial arts club and federation supporting such things should be disowned!
The martial arts practice was based on honor codes.
.
Is it right for a martial artist to screw a man's family, friends, and martial arts family ... ?
You are hurting,I can hear it.
It is "never" right for a Martial Artist to do anything that leans to the "negative".No "True" Martial Artist would ever even think along these lines.
We are the ones that always help the elderly neighbor by putting their trash cans out,loaning out their tools,helping people move, %26amp; sticking up for the kid getting picked on.
I am 51 years old,30+ years in Martial Arts.A life spent trying to always do the right thing,be fair,be honest. I am considered by others to be a Martial Artist.
It is "impossible" that a "Martial Artist" did these things,if so they would not be Martial Artist.
I think you have confused "Martial Artist" with some Karate guy so to speak.A jerk that has trained in the physical aspects and took a pass on the mental %26amp; ethical aspects of the arts.
A 'true" Martial Artist observes the following "tenants"
Ethics
Honesty
Character
Humility
Reply:To phil, TONY, and everyone else. I gave everyone a star, no matter what they said. This a not "loaded" question with an ulterior motive as you might say. In the Asian and Chinese culture, four thousand years of it, justice is had by laying the grounds for prosecution of the wrongdoers. Report It
Reply:And people should always be civil. I ask questions that pertains to martial arts culture and to the rites of succession. I ask questions about ethics and the legitimacy of one's heritage and succession. These are good general questions that all martial artist should know. Report It
Reply:Martial arts is not just fighting and a matter of pride and profits. Culture and a man's name is involved as well as his legacy. If a man was great, would his successor make it know? If a man was great, should that man share what he has acquired with the man's Report It
Reply:family to insure a proper succession? Do you now dismiss everyone in the family and martial arts tree? These are questions of ethics that I ask and you guys should know the answer(s)! Report It
Reply:Hey guy, this might be a question for your local district attorney's office. Try the government listings in front of your local phonebook. Sometimes the pages are blue for government.
Reply:It's not just wrong for a martial artist, it's wrong for everyone.
One sure way to know if something is wrong is to decide if you would want that action done to yourself. If the answer is no, then the action is wrong. I do not lie, cheat, steal, etc. because I do not want these things done to me. The Golden Rule always applies.
Reply:Hey Max, what's goin' on with you? Not a Max style question, keep it up and you wont be hearing anymore from me mate? cheers.
Reply:This is obviously a"loaded" question with an ulterior motive. if you are angry and feel offended, please seek assistance from the proper authorities legally as well as seek help emotionally for yourself. you sound as though you are hurt and angry. Please get help for yourself.
Reply:That person has no Morales and is a disgrace!
Reply:It is not right for anyone to engage in such practice, it does not apply only to martial artists, but to any human beings.
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When doing martial arts and blocking with the forearm, why does it hurt so much and why so many bruises?
when I do martial arts and block people for a long time, my forearms really hurt and bruise alot. How do they do it in competitions etc? Do your arms get used to it? Can you condition your limbs for this kind of thing? (No smartass answers about me being a wimp or anything, maybe I am sparring too hard :p ).
When doing martial arts and blocking with the forearm, why does it hurt so much and why so many bruises?
The reason it hurts so much is we are made out of soft, mushy tissue. We were not designed to be beating on each other. With weightlifting and years of practice you can make yuour muscles harder so it takes longer and harder hits to bruise. As for the bruising though, it will never really stop, only take more to bruise it.
Reply:From a former Marine...
We used MCMAT (Marine Corps Martial Arts Techniques) in training, and in order to deaden nerves in different parts of the body, it took small, repetitive, blunt force trauma to that specific part for about a 1 to 2 weeks. I'm talking about striking, yet not hurting after each strike. You shouldn't bruise, although I guess if you did it for long enough and if your skin was overly sensitive it could happen however.
It was common to use both in forearms and shins. No Pain no Gain for that type of thing. Good Luck.
Reply:Dont do Martial Arts b ut i am involved in a few contact sports. what i generally do is try and cushion the impacts and use it to my advantage. so rather than simply blocking an attack, maybe you could use their arm as a leverage to launch your own attack - a nice little counter atttack.
Also, if you are challenging dont ever do anything half assed - you are more likely to cause yourself an injury
Reply:Dont use the top part ,use the under part of your fore arm, top part to boney,gett um tiger.
Reply:You build up your arms and learn to take those kind of hits. While you may still get bruises and they'll still hurt - you learn to deal with it. Yes, it's conditioning... Also, you learn to block with stronger parts of your arm, which reduces bruising... to "roll" with the hits and not take the "full force" of the impacts straight into your arms ("deflect" the blows with your arms instead of "blocking") ... unless you're using your forearms as striking surfaces (like in various kickboxing variants) - you shouldn't be getting THAT bruised from a simple sparring session.
Reply:Your arms will get used to it. You can condition so you can handle training for long periods of time by using cote-hate (I know that that's spelled wrong, sry. Idk how). Example: hit your forearm against something durable(like someone else's forearm). Don't use this technique to bruise your forearm, but just enough power to toughen your bones. You can use this w/ your legs and abdomen, too. It'll hurt at first bc it takes some getting used to.
Reply:Yes you can condition your forearms by slowly blocking against either another person's arms or a solid object and then slowly increasing how hard you hit it; you will condition the forearm. The amount of bruising you are getting could be a sign of low iron - make sure you are getting enough.
You should condition your forearms and check your vitamin intake, but I think more importantly is to look at the way you are blocking. Blocking with your forearms should be more of deflection and not like force against force. If you are coming into straight impact with your forearms than that is most likely always going to hurt and its not really beneficial anyway. You need to practice evading. Step to the side, back %26amp; then attack. Your blocking arms should have more of a rolling affect instead of a clash. This will decrease the pain, but also sets you up better for a follow up attack.
Reply:It's just a matter of conditioning and it's different for everyone. Different people = different biology = different bruising and levels of pain. If you keep at it, though, your body will eventually be conditioned and you'll notice that the bruising will happen less and less and you'll hurt less as well. Just keep at it and if the pain happens to turn to a sharp piercing pain you may want to slow down for a bit. After all, your bones can only take so much pounding before they need to reinforce themselves.
Reply:you need to work them more and build up arm strength. When you spar you arent supposed to go hard either, it is just a high speed game of tag. you only need to touch them to get the point. but work the forearm and stretch it
Reply:Your forearms will get used to it. I know my after I get done with Taekwondo , I am tired. That's because I haven't used the muscles in a while. And I am finally getting used to it.
It takes time to get your forarms to get stronger.
Reply:YOU ARE DEFINATELY NOT SPARRING TOO HARD..... unless you severely hurt someone, you are in the process of conditioning your body after time those shin to shin kicks wont even faze you... jus keep doin what you are doin.... it will pay off... good job
Reply:Stepss1 and Eric C has the right of it. Blocking isn't a bone on bone thing, it is a re-direction of your opponents force.
A touch/twist motion with your forearm, upon contact, is the best way to deflect the block without hurting your arm. If you are quick enough and practice the block techniques enough times, you will not bruise up so bad.
Reply:It's probably already been said here, but your arms do get used to it. Basically, the blocking is conditioning. The more you block, the more bruises you get, but eventually, your arms toughen up to it. Also, you get used to the bruises, and stop thinking about them when they do come up (or spend time of otherwise boredom poking them, naming them and drawing faces on them as I do).
Something that may be affecting how much/'badly' you get bruised is how you are blocking. Your blocks might be a bit choppy, but I'm not one to judge as I haven't see them and I don't know what sort of blocking technique you're using, and how much you are taught to roll the block in the art you're training in. I'd say asking your instructor/sensei if you think that's something that's causing a lot of your bruising is a good idea.
When doing martial arts and blocking with the forearm, why does it hurt so much and why so many bruises?
The reason it hurts so much is we are made out of soft, mushy tissue. We were not designed to be beating on each other. With weightlifting and years of practice you can make yuour muscles harder so it takes longer and harder hits to bruise. As for the bruising though, it will never really stop, only take more to bruise it.
Reply:From a former Marine...
We used MCMAT (Marine Corps Martial Arts Techniques) in training, and in order to deaden nerves in different parts of the body, it took small, repetitive, blunt force trauma to that specific part for about a 1 to 2 weeks. I'm talking about striking, yet not hurting after each strike. You shouldn't bruise, although I guess if you did it for long enough and if your skin was overly sensitive it could happen however.
It was common to use both in forearms and shins. No Pain no Gain for that type of thing. Good Luck.
Reply:Dont do Martial Arts b ut i am involved in a few contact sports. what i generally do is try and cushion the impacts and use it to my advantage. so rather than simply blocking an attack, maybe you could use their arm as a leverage to launch your own attack - a nice little counter atttack.
Also, if you are challenging dont ever do anything half assed - you are more likely to cause yourself an injury
Reply:Dont use the top part ,use the under part of your fore arm, top part to boney,gett um tiger.
Reply:You build up your arms and learn to take those kind of hits. While you may still get bruises and they'll still hurt - you learn to deal with it. Yes, it's conditioning... Also, you learn to block with stronger parts of your arm, which reduces bruising... to "roll" with the hits and not take the "full force" of the impacts straight into your arms ("deflect" the blows with your arms instead of "blocking") ... unless you're using your forearms as striking surfaces (like in various kickboxing variants) - you shouldn't be getting THAT bruised from a simple sparring session.
Reply:Your arms will get used to it. You can condition so you can handle training for long periods of time by using cote-hate (I know that that's spelled wrong, sry. Idk how). Example: hit your forearm against something durable(like someone else's forearm). Don't use this technique to bruise your forearm, but just enough power to toughen your bones. You can use this w/ your legs and abdomen, too. It'll hurt at first bc it takes some getting used to.
Reply:Yes you can condition your forearms by slowly blocking against either another person's arms or a solid object and then slowly increasing how hard you hit it; you will condition the forearm. The amount of bruising you are getting could be a sign of low iron - make sure you are getting enough.
You should condition your forearms and check your vitamin intake, but I think more importantly is to look at the way you are blocking. Blocking with your forearms should be more of deflection and not like force against force. If you are coming into straight impact with your forearms than that is most likely always going to hurt and its not really beneficial anyway. You need to practice evading. Step to the side, back %26amp; then attack. Your blocking arms should have more of a rolling affect instead of a clash. This will decrease the pain, but also sets you up better for a follow up attack.
Reply:It's just a matter of conditioning and it's different for everyone. Different people = different biology = different bruising and levels of pain. If you keep at it, though, your body will eventually be conditioned and you'll notice that the bruising will happen less and less and you'll hurt less as well. Just keep at it and if the pain happens to turn to a sharp piercing pain you may want to slow down for a bit. After all, your bones can only take so much pounding before they need to reinforce themselves.
Reply:you need to work them more and build up arm strength. When you spar you arent supposed to go hard either, it is just a high speed game of tag. you only need to touch them to get the point. but work the forearm and stretch it
Reply:Your forearms will get used to it. I know my after I get done with Taekwondo , I am tired. That's because I haven't used the muscles in a while. And I am finally getting used to it.
It takes time to get your forarms to get stronger.
Reply:YOU ARE DEFINATELY NOT SPARRING TOO HARD..... unless you severely hurt someone, you are in the process of conditioning your body after time those shin to shin kicks wont even faze you... jus keep doin what you are doin.... it will pay off... good job
Reply:Stepss1 and Eric C has the right of it. Blocking isn't a bone on bone thing, it is a re-direction of your opponents force.
A touch/twist motion with your forearm, upon contact, is the best way to deflect the block without hurting your arm. If you are quick enough and practice the block techniques enough times, you will not bruise up so bad.
Reply:It's probably already been said here, but your arms do get used to it. Basically, the blocking is conditioning. The more you block, the more bruises you get, but eventually, your arms toughen up to it. Also, you get used to the bruises, and stop thinking about them when they do come up (or spend time of otherwise boredom poking them, naming them and drawing faces on them as I do).
Something that may be affecting how much/'badly' you get bruised is how you are blocking. Your blocks might be a bit choppy, but I'm not one to judge as I haven't see them and I don't know what sort of blocking technique you're using, and how much you are taught to roll the block in the art you're training in. I'd say asking your instructor/sensei if you think that's something that's causing a lot of your bruising is a good idea.
How as martial arts affected you as a person physically, spiritually, and emotionally?
I think there will be many good answers! As for myself at the onset of my martial arts training the first thing I noticed was an increased energy and better physique. Having my body in good shape also increased my intellectual capacity(being able to think clearer than ever before). At some points early on I noticed I had quite a chip on my shoulder from all my concentration on fighting techniques making me think I could defeat anyone out there. Later on I realized that there is always someone better out there somewhere and it would always be that way no matter how skilled I became and how hard I trained for the rest of my life. At this point it was quite a parodox for me to understand the relationship between Master and Student. I had thought the Master was the man and I had to bring myself to his level. What I eventually realized was that being a Master and a Student meant that both grow and become more knowledgable and refined as time passes on. What a revelation!
How as martial arts affected you as a person physically, spiritually, and emotionally?
ive read your question and i wont answer all of it,but i will give you a bit of advice pertaining to it overall.
don't aspire to be anyone even your master,everyone has faults and if you emulate anyone you also emulate their faults.
you learn more by listening even if you think that person doesn't know what there talking about than talking just to hear the sound of your own voice.
and i didn't read that anywhere,noone told me that.it's what iv'e learnt from "experience"
yours in bushido.Dai Sensei Wayne.
PS.just one more thing nothing to do with ma,just a general thing about the way you interact with ppl-you catch more flies with honey than vinegar?
Reply:Also I would like to add that I now grasp some of the concepts that you speak about. What I have learned from my short time on this forum are truly enlightening experiences. Experience is something we all keep in with us for our entire lifetime. Report It
Reply:see i'm not the prick you thought i was?like ive said before the best word in the world no matter what your talking about "experience" Report It
Reply:P.S. Saint G, you're one of the great minds on here with truly valuable insights and experiences. I wish I could pick two best answers, however, my experience here with Sensei Wayne has been quite a journey in my own personal growth. With the deepest respectsand Aloha. Mahalo nui loa, Rory Report It
Reply:Martial arts just increases your confidence... that's all.
Reply:It gave me confidence, but not just confidence itself. to say it only gives confidence and that is all is missing out on why it gave it to us.
confidence came about because I could observe and use my intuition better than before. my understanding of my abilities showed me that others could have the same or better experience in them. this kept me wary, yet not paranoid like before.
I took control of my situations. I took the lead in my decisions, and stood upon my own feet without second guessing. I stopped thinking about what if's and just did what I knew was the right thing to do.
before training back in my teens, I was a scared, beaten, unsure kid. training and the places and situations it has taken me through has opened up my world.
so it just doesnt get confidence, like it is an end. but you gain your life back as your own, never to doubt yourself, or rely on other peoples actions or beliefs to affect your own.
in the end I would question even my training and see it from retrospect and decide for myself what is worthy. we eventually become our own teachers, if we listen to ourselves, and believe what we hear.
a foundation in the arts is awesome, but to take it beyond the training halls is the goal of freedom. we have to be masters of our own game not only inside the hall, but throughout our life.
treat people how they treat you, and if they cross the line, ensure they know.
Reply:Physically I am stronger %26amp; more flexible (or maybe it would be more accurate to say less inflexible).
Spititually %26amp; emotionally (I don't think it's possible to seperate the 2) I am much better able to control my emotions.
flowers sympathy
How as martial arts affected you as a person physically, spiritually, and emotionally?
ive read your question and i wont answer all of it,but i will give you a bit of advice pertaining to it overall.
don't aspire to be anyone even your master,everyone has faults and if you emulate anyone you also emulate their faults.
you learn more by listening even if you think that person doesn't know what there talking about than talking just to hear the sound of your own voice.
and i didn't read that anywhere,noone told me that.it's what iv'e learnt from "experience"
yours in bushido.Dai Sensei Wayne.
PS.just one more thing nothing to do with ma,just a general thing about the way you interact with ppl-you catch more flies with honey than vinegar?
Reply:Also I would like to add that I now grasp some of the concepts that you speak about. What I have learned from my short time on this forum are truly enlightening experiences. Experience is something we all keep in with us for our entire lifetime. Report It
Reply:see i'm not the prick you thought i was?like ive said before the best word in the world no matter what your talking about "experience" Report It
Reply:P.S. Saint G, you're one of the great minds on here with truly valuable insights and experiences. I wish I could pick two best answers, however, my experience here with Sensei Wayne has been quite a journey in my own personal growth. With the deepest respectsand Aloha. Mahalo nui loa, Rory Report It
Reply:Martial arts just increases your confidence... that's all.
Reply:It gave me confidence, but not just confidence itself. to say it only gives confidence and that is all is missing out on why it gave it to us.
confidence came about because I could observe and use my intuition better than before. my understanding of my abilities showed me that others could have the same or better experience in them. this kept me wary, yet not paranoid like before.
I took control of my situations. I took the lead in my decisions, and stood upon my own feet without second guessing. I stopped thinking about what if's and just did what I knew was the right thing to do.
before training back in my teens, I was a scared, beaten, unsure kid. training and the places and situations it has taken me through has opened up my world.
so it just doesnt get confidence, like it is an end. but you gain your life back as your own, never to doubt yourself, or rely on other peoples actions or beliefs to affect your own.
in the end I would question even my training and see it from retrospect and decide for myself what is worthy. we eventually become our own teachers, if we listen to ourselves, and believe what we hear.
a foundation in the arts is awesome, but to take it beyond the training halls is the goal of freedom. we have to be masters of our own game not only inside the hall, but throughout our life.
treat people how they treat you, and if they cross the line, ensure they know.
Reply:Physically I am stronger %26amp; more flexible (or maybe it would be more accurate to say less inflexible).
Spititually %26amp; emotionally (I don't think it's possible to seperate the 2) I am much better able to control my emotions.
flowers sympathy
Does your Martial Arts discipline define who you are? Example: Does grappler = Brawler?
I've been told that a person chooses his or her own martial arts style on the kind of personality they have or their tendencies as a person. I don't totally agree with that ideology because that would mean that an extremely agressive style such as Jujitsu or Muay Thai, Krav Mag etc... would mean that person is the same. I've seen too many examples of where it isnt.
Does your Martial Arts discipline define who you are? Example: Does grappler = Brawler?
I do not believe this to be true.
People are limited geographically to their style. They must and can only study what is available to them.
I say find a good school not a good style.
Reply:I don't agree that a person chooses their specialty based on their personality but I do believe that the style they choose affects the perception others have of them in the ring. A person who excels in Jujitsu and can strike well on their feet often have more exciting fights than those who have a background in wrestling and have the strategy to just take a person down and trying to grab some quick tops on the ground.
Reply:I took Tae Kwon Do. It was ok, but I think if I was to take another martial art it would be Kung Fu. I like the old TV show Kung Fu that I can't think of any other style that would satisfy me.
I'm on probation for felony weapons violations against my neighbor. No style satisfies any aggression. I no longer find violence to be the answer for normal situations. But I think that forms, military type discipline. and technique, and history of the martial art itself are what interest me.
I even enjoyed learning the Tai Chi form, and it doesn't involve any fighting. Peace
Reply:Hi there
Now this is a interesting question. I think it would be wrong to say that the art defines the person. I think a person picks their art based on their interests, needs, build and ability. It would be wrong to say that everyone who trains in BJJ and Thai Boxing is a brawler. But these arts do seem to attract people with that kind of mentality just as Ninjutsu attracts the nut jobs.
However you usually find that people who begin training with the wrong intentions usually quit training after 3 months because it requires commitment and its just too much hard work for them. So no the art doesn't influence a practitioners behaviour. People are People regards of the art form they choose to practice.
Best wishes
idai
Reply:I'd say Isshinryu partially defines what I am.
Reply:I used to wrestle, and box and was never aggressive or anything, I actually never wanted to fight even when a win was guaranteed! But sometimes you cant avoid fighting stupid people but thats just a whole nother story.
Reply:I don't believe the disciplline you study "defines" who you are by any means, however, in large metropolitan areas where many different disciplines are readily available, personality preferences and traits may play a role in the initial decision on which discipline to begin studying.
I would hope however, that whatever discipline was begun, the structure of the program would be such that the indiviudal would transcend that initial impulse that motivated all of us to begin our journey, and it would mature into a fuller understanding of themselves, the art they are studying, and the many benefits they enjoy through participation.
Almost everyone I know within the martial arts began their study for one reason, and continue to study for many entirely different reasons.
I do believe some people are undoubtedly drawn to certain disciplines as a result of media attention (or hype), perceived social status that may be accured from the art, and a number of similar reasons. In some sense, the reverse of your question may therfore be true, that the persona of the discipline in a particular area or envionrment may attract particular personalities. I think we can see that clearly reflected often on this very forum :)
Ken C
9th Dan HapMoosaKi-Do
8th Dan TaeKwon-Do
7th Dan YongChul-Do
Does your Martial Arts discipline define who you are? Example: Does grappler = Brawler?
I do not believe this to be true.
People are limited geographically to their style. They must and can only study what is available to them.
I say find a good school not a good style.
Reply:I don't agree that a person chooses their specialty based on their personality but I do believe that the style they choose affects the perception others have of them in the ring. A person who excels in Jujitsu and can strike well on their feet often have more exciting fights than those who have a background in wrestling and have the strategy to just take a person down and trying to grab some quick tops on the ground.
Reply:I took Tae Kwon Do. It was ok, but I think if I was to take another martial art it would be Kung Fu. I like the old TV show Kung Fu that I can't think of any other style that would satisfy me.
I'm on probation for felony weapons violations against my neighbor. No style satisfies any aggression. I no longer find violence to be the answer for normal situations. But I think that forms, military type discipline. and technique, and history of the martial art itself are what interest me.
I even enjoyed learning the Tai Chi form, and it doesn't involve any fighting. Peace
Reply:Hi there
Now this is a interesting question. I think it would be wrong to say that the art defines the person. I think a person picks their art based on their interests, needs, build and ability. It would be wrong to say that everyone who trains in BJJ and Thai Boxing is a brawler. But these arts do seem to attract people with that kind of mentality just as Ninjutsu attracts the nut jobs.
However you usually find that people who begin training with the wrong intentions usually quit training after 3 months because it requires commitment and its just too much hard work for them. So no the art doesn't influence a practitioners behaviour. People are People regards of the art form they choose to practice.
Best wishes
idai
Reply:I'd say Isshinryu partially defines what I am.
Reply:I used to wrestle, and box and was never aggressive or anything, I actually never wanted to fight even when a win was guaranteed! But sometimes you cant avoid fighting stupid people but thats just a whole nother story.
Reply:I don't believe the disciplline you study "defines" who you are by any means, however, in large metropolitan areas where many different disciplines are readily available, personality preferences and traits may play a role in the initial decision on which discipline to begin studying.
I would hope however, that whatever discipline was begun, the structure of the program would be such that the indiviudal would transcend that initial impulse that motivated all of us to begin our journey, and it would mature into a fuller understanding of themselves, the art they are studying, and the many benefits they enjoy through participation.
Almost everyone I know within the martial arts began their study for one reason, and continue to study for many entirely different reasons.
I do believe some people are undoubtedly drawn to certain disciplines as a result of media attention (or hype), perceived social status that may be accured from the art, and a number of similar reasons. In some sense, the reverse of your question may therfore be true, that the persona of the discipline in a particular area or envionrment may attract particular personalities. I think we can see that clearly reflected often on this very forum :)
Ken C
9th Dan HapMoosaKi-Do
8th Dan TaeKwon-Do
7th Dan YongChul-Do
China and martial arts?
I saw on tv scenes of a city in China that is dedicated to the study of martial arts. Hundreds, maybe thousands of people practice at the same time. It looks beautiful. Does anybody know the name of the city?
China and martial arts?
no, but search for it on google
Reply:The Documentary took place all across China.
Reply:I know, isn't it amazing and it does look beautiful but i'm afraid I don't know the name of the city though, sorry.
Reply:Don't know what you saw on TV, but the only city or town I know of where everyone practices the same martial art is Chen Village, the birthplace of Chen Tai Chi.
Reply:In every big city ( more than a million people) you can find people practicinge tai chi or some other martial arts in the hundreds. They usually do it on a huge city square. It is quite common in any city.
Reply:I think you were watching the Discovery Channel's "China Revealed" where hundreds of school children would study the martial arts. I cannot remember the name of that city, but you may be able to find it here:
http://dsc.discovery.com/ads/ad_intersti...
Reply:No, but I really want to know.
Reply:LOL. There are dozens of places like you mentioned. There are many annual events where students from the same style of any kung fu gathers for tournaments and competitions.
Heck, even the Shaolin temple is commercialized to take any students including foreigners without having to convert to Buddism. See for your self.
Reply:There are lots of places like that in China!!!
Reply:If you are referring to Tai Chi, then it is common in almost all cities in China.
Some example cities are: Hong Kong and Guangzhou.
Reply:it depends on what specific martial arts.
Any park in any city during the morning will have a lot of people doing tai chi together
Shaolin monks teach gong fu (kung fu) to many.
China and martial arts?
no, but search for it on google
Reply:The Documentary took place all across China.
Reply:I know, isn't it amazing and it does look beautiful but i'm afraid I don't know the name of the city though, sorry.
Reply:Don't know what you saw on TV, but the only city or town I know of where everyone practices the same martial art is Chen Village, the birthplace of Chen Tai Chi.
Reply:In every big city ( more than a million people) you can find people practicinge tai chi or some other martial arts in the hundreds. They usually do it on a huge city square. It is quite common in any city.
Reply:I think you were watching the Discovery Channel's "China Revealed" where hundreds of school children would study the martial arts. I cannot remember the name of that city, but you may be able to find it here:
http://dsc.discovery.com/ads/ad_intersti...
Reply:No, but I really want to know.
Reply:LOL. There are dozens of places like you mentioned. There are many annual events where students from the same style of any kung fu gathers for tournaments and competitions.
Heck, even the Shaolin temple is commercialized to take any students including foreigners without having to convert to Buddism. See for your self.
Reply:There are lots of places like that in China!!!
Reply:If you are referring to Tai Chi, then it is common in almost all cities in China.
Some example cities are: Hong Kong and Guangzhou.
Reply:it depends on what specific martial arts.
Any park in any city during the morning will have a lot of people doing tai chi together
Shaolin monks teach gong fu (kung fu) to many.
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