DO NOT ANSWER BY PUTTING GUNS, KNIVES AND ANY OTHER STUPID STUFF THAT IS NOT RELATED TO MARTIAL ARTS AND THE WEAPONS... I AM TALKING ABOUT WHAT IS YOUR FAVORITE WEAPON IN MARTIAL ARTS!
What is your favorite weapon if you take martial arts? no guns, or anything that is not related to martial art
3 section staff.
Reply:You'll not be telling this old Mick what to use and what not to use. I come to a fight prepared to win, and if that takes a knife or a gun or me whoppin' big shillelagh, so be it. 'Tis not my carcass they'll be dragging to the waste pit...
Reply:1- GUNS ARE WEAPONS USED IN MARTIAL ARTS.
2- KNIVES ARE WEAPONS USED IN MARTIAL ARTS.
martial arts are the arts of mars, mars the god of war- any weapon used in war is a "martial arts weapon".
even if you exclude guns, there are tons of schools that teach knife fighting.
naruto only makes you stupid- go watch some south park.
Reply:Ubewaza? Not sure of the spelling, but, it amounts to a small piece of wood(*) just longer than the fist. To be clenched in the fist. It is used in conjunction with punching. Since this is a very short weopon, it can not easily be taken away like tire irons or ball bats! [Any long weopons are easily taken away by third degree or higher black belt martial artists!]
Reply:Your 'BRAINS'. Thats your best weapon in martial.
Reply:I have always been a fan of "numb chucks". . sorry about the spelling. . my two all time favorite fighters Bruce Lee and Jet Li have great footage of them tearing it up versus opponents with various other weapons. . they are agile, adaptable and fluent--just like the two aforementioned fighters. . look at Enter The Dragon and Fearless for video confirmation
Reply:Mm... I'm pretty good with staff twirling in juggling, so I think I would want to learn how to use one in martial arts. It would also be interesting to join up with one of the Star Wars fighting groups and learn how to fight with a lightsaber, as that could be applied to sword or knife combat.
But if I'm watching, I'm easily impressed by just about any weapon.
Reply:Probably the short stick or Staff. Both of these are practical weapons that can be translated for street combat. A pool cue,a tree branch,pipe,...they are similar
Reply:Although you don't accept knives as part of this question the truth is that knives are also part of the martial arts curriculum in some systems of martial arts such as ninjutsu in which the knife used is called a TANTO. But to my preference this would be the hanbo (3" staff) the reason is practicality you see as a 3 ft. staff is just long enough to be a walking stick it would not be questioned as a weapon if you choose to walk around with it in plain view. All other weapons unfortunately are either illegal to have or just carry in some states. The hanbo is small and as legal as it gets.
Hope you like the answer.
Reply:Chinese straight sword, easy to learn but hard to master. Versatile enough in strategies to defend from any weapons. My personal favor.
Reply:1. Katana.
*Loads of fun to work with, very relaxing.
2. Nun Chaku.
*Lots of concentration.
*Marginally practical for self defense.
3. Side handle baton (PR-24).
*WOW!
*Very cool. Lots of variations of applications available.
4. Bo staff.
*Something which I'd like to learn one day.
Have A Nice Weekend!
Reply:Double hook swords, as seen in Shandong Eagle, Southern Choy Lay Fut, and Hung Gar. Butterfly swords are nice too.
Saturday, May 15, 2010
Ways [for a fictional character] to learn all martial arts?
Can you think of any ways for a character to learn all martial arts? The idea for the character I have is that he was sent by his government to create the best hybrid martial art, but to do this they wanted him to study all other martial arts. So, he traveled the world to study them.
The one trait that I want to retain for this character is that he is a can memorize moves and techniques by watching them just one time - much in the same way Micheal Jackson can do for dance steps or Jet Li can do for moves within a fight scene.
Any ideas?
Ways [for a fictional character] to learn all martial arts?
Okay... Here's my two ideas:
1. Photographic reflexes... The character can watch a person move and instantly be able to reproduce the movement. Their training time would be short because they would only need to understand how to intergrate the system, and listen to the teachers lessons in tactics and strategy.
2. The person has the ability to absorb the memory and skills of another through touch.
Reply:Since it's fiction, make something up. Really, there's no practical way to do this as most arts claim to take years to master. There are multiple experts out there. Fedor is a black belt in Sambo and Judo, for example, and Anderson Silva is an expert in Muay Thai and Jui Jitsu. But there are thousands of styles and substyles and each master has his own techniques. Essentially, no human person could reasonably do this.
Reply:We don't need any more of that flashy bullsh!t. How about keep it simple, brutal and down to earth? Watch "Soldier" with Kurt Russel, they have the most realistic fighting style out of all movies I seen.
beside that, many so call "martial artists who train only for peaceful purpose" will want to kill you if you make a such story.
Reply:maybe the way neo did in the matrix. or he could just be born with this special ability to learn things just by looking at it. like me. I learned to play the guitar in two weeks without any teacher or anything. I just picked it up, and started playing it. :)
Reply:sent by the government...
he could be wet wired with a computer processor in his brain. it could act like a virtual memory of what he learns and it maps out the body movements and thoughts, so that when activated by a spike in adrenaline, feeds the mind and nerves with impulses. so he would have fast reflexes. it could also over-ride the effects of fatigue or drugs/alcohol and allow him to go that bit longer or resist drugging.
it is similar to the matrix but probably a little more realistic with tech going the way it is. you could add a twist by making him go multiple personality due to the processor becoming more and more operational and he starts forgetting who he is (maybe like a Bourne Identity theme). could bite the hand that feeds him.
Reply:Muay Thai, sprinkle a bit of Ju-jitsu and a dash of kung-fu.
That would make him an all-rounder capable of kicking anyone's azz...
Reply:Watch "The Matrix." The original one has a scene where Neo learns them all.
Reply:there are thousands of martial arts.... go here :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_mar...
and pick out the pimpest lookin 1's ever...... the lesser known the better... this guy he trains all day every day thats all he does so he paugua.... black tiger... drunken kung fu, taido.. sum type of karate.. hapkido.. aikido.. juijitsu.. wscrima.. basicly pick 1's focused on either weapons strikes unarmed strikes throws or grappling... 1's that r focused on 1 area seem 2 b more potant in that area.. oh and ur guys gatta know pressure poits.. lol and master like 10 types of qigong so he can do chi attacks.... its the government so they pay the best in the worls 2 teach him... science its all day every day and hes a prodigy it doesent take long 2 soak up an art
Reply:make them up.if's he's a fictional character would'nt he do fictional martial arts in a fictional dojo with a fictional sensei.why wouldn't he just carry a fictional gun that turns into a fictional helicopter or plane etc or even turns into a fictional macdonalds when hes hungry or the best looking fictional woman in the world when hes horny?or you could just ask his fictional sensei to teach you as well?you'll be a fictional black belt in no time not unlike some(not all) of the people that answer yahoo answers.bahahaha....
The one trait that I want to retain for this character is that he is a can memorize moves and techniques by watching them just one time - much in the same way Micheal Jackson can do for dance steps or Jet Li can do for moves within a fight scene.
Any ideas?
Ways [for a fictional character] to learn all martial arts?
Okay... Here's my two ideas:
1. Photographic reflexes... The character can watch a person move and instantly be able to reproduce the movement. Their training time would be short because they would only need to understand how to intergrate the system, and listen to the teachers lessons in tactics and strategy.
2. The person has the ability to absorb the memory and skills of another through touch.
Reply:Since it's fiction, make something up. Really, there's no practical way to do this as most arts claim to take years to master. There are multiple experts out there. Fedor is a black belt in Sambo and Judo, for example, and Anderson Silva is an expert in Muay Thai and Jui Jitsu. But there are thousands of styles and substyles and each master has his own techniques. Essentially, no human person could reasonably do this.
Reply:We don't need any more of that flashy bullsh!t. How about keep it simple, brutal and down to earth? Watch "Soldier" with Kurt Russel, they have the most realistic fighting style out of all movies I seen.
beside that, many so call "martial artists who train only for peaceful purpose" will want to kill you if you make a such story.
Reply:maybe the way neo did in the matrix. or he could just be born with this special ability to learn things just by looking at it. like me. I learned to play the guitar in two weeks without any teacher or anything. I just picked it up, and started playing it. :)
Reply:sent by the government...
he could be wet wired with a computer processor in his brain. it could act like a virtual memory of what he learns and it maps out the body movements and thoughts, so that when activated by a spike in adrenaline, feeds the mind and nerves with impulses. so he would have fast reflexes. it could also over-ride the effects of fatigue or drugs/alcohol and allow him to go that bit longer or resist drugging.
it is similar to the matrix but probably a little more realistic with tech going the way it is. you could add a twist by making him go multiple personality due to the processor becoming more and more operational and he starts forgetting who he is (maybe like a Bourne Identity theme). could bite the hand that feeds him.
Reply:Muay Thai, sprinkle a bit of Ju-jitsu and a dash of kung-fu.
That would make him an all-rounder capable of kicking anyone's azz...
Reply:Watch "The Matrix." The original one has a scene where Neo learns them all.
Reply:there are thousands of martial arts.... go here :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_mar...
and pick out the pimpest lookin 1's ever...... the lesser known the better... this guy he trains all day every day thats all he does so he paugua.... black tiger... drunken kung fu, taido.. sum type of karate.. hapkido.. aikido.. juijitsu.. wscrima.. basicly pick 1's focused on either weapons strikes unarmed strikes throws or grappling... 1's that r focused on 1 area seem 2 b more potant in that area.. oh and ur guys gatta know pressure poits.. lol and master like 10 types of qigong so he can do chi attacks.... its the government so they pay the best in the worls 2 teach him... science its all day every day and hes a prodigy it doesent take long 2 soak up an art
Reply:make them up.if's he's a fictional character would'nt he do fictional martial arts in a fictional dojo with a fictional sensei.why wouldn't he just carry a fictional gun that turns into a fictional helicopter or plane etc or even turns into a fictional macdonalds when hes hungry or the best looking fictional woman in the world when hes horny?or you could just ask his fictional sensei to teach you as well?you'll be a fictional black belt in no time not unlike some(not all) of the people that answer yahoo answers.bahahaha....
Is there a good Martial Arts film with a good story...........?
Im talking true Martial Arts films here, not Rush Hour or the like.
I have many jackie Chan films %26amp; some Bruce Lee's %26amp; all are great but ive only bought them for the action as the storylines SUCK.
I dont mind that much but was wondering if there actually is a good Martial Atrs film with a good story. ?
.
Is there a good Martial Arts film with a good story...........?
Ong-Bak, and the Martial Arts expert does all his own stunts.
As martial arts films go, this is one of the better ones :-)
Reply:No, they all suck!
Reply:almost anything with Jet li is pretty good i think. just saw fearless.... thought it was great. just go to imdb.com and type in Jet Li. or theres things like crouching tiger hidden dragon, house of flying daggers... things like that.... they never bore me. same thing here.... just go to imdb.... type in one of these movies.... and just click on one of the actors names.... sure itll bring up some good ones.
Reply:Try "drunken master" Reasonable story %26amp; funny!
Reply:The Touch, starring Michelle Yeoh.
I personally like it alot and I watched it 3 times.
Reply:Kung Fu Hustle is pretty good. Not sure if it's a true martial arts film though.
Reply:I watched House of Flying Daggers last night. The plots ok, the fight
parts and choreography are incredible. Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon is good too.
The Karate Kid is king though, 'cause it's got Mr Miagi.
Reply:I have always considered 'Enter the Dragon' the best of the Bruce Lee films. Also I saw one of his films in Paris a long time ago think it was called the Green something.and as I recall was a send-up of Batman type superheroes.
You can also get DVDs of the old TV series The Water Margins. The special effects are dated but still a very enjoyable version of the Chinese classic book. Romanticised outlaws similar to Robin Hood
The 'Monkey' series is also available and is more humorous. Irrepressible describes Monkey very well.
Reply:(#Choke cough splutter#) CROUCHING TIGER, HIDDEN DRAGON???
Reply:A bittersweet life,its not really a martial arts film strictly speaking though, most of em have no story line or are just plain silly
Reply:Please try "Paque de Loup" it is
a French movie,
but very special... Aaron.
Reply:Well I did see one called hong fooy tong Wong.
Storeys starts off 1 man surrounded by 60 men, he does a back somersault up into the tree, 60 ft high as well.
they all lob bricks at him, he jumps down amazingly takes out 10 men, one man approaches from behind and wacks him in the nuts as hard as he could, Chinese man shakes his head sweating profusely. Jumps in the air and does a 180 % turn this time taking out 20 men trying to catch up here, subtitles are a little behind.
Then he does a handspring continuously in a circle taking out every man in his way, all are trying to attack him but they keeps missing, sound affects are amazing,wahhhhh,huhhhhhhh.uhhhhhhhka ching.
There only one men still alive.
Him vs the master, he pulls out a gun and shoots him, none of this fooy wooy karate chopping.
Reply:Dragon Tiger Gate
Reply:Fearless is totally awesome; brilliant fighting, great story and good acting. All you need!!
Reply:Crouching Tiger Hidden Dragon
Fearless ( Great story )
Shogun Assassin
Zatoichi ( Very good )
Reply:unleashed
Reply:Ong Bak (Thai movie with Tony Jaa who is AMAZING - all his own stunts and great extras on the 2-disc DVD)
House of Flying Daggers - utterly beautiful with great fight scenes.
Crouching Tiger of course.
Hard Boiled isn't bad either and Bangkok Dangerous is okay but the above three are the best of the lot, enjoy!
Reply:Crying Freeman Marc Damascus
I have many jackie Chan films %26amp; some Bruce Lee's %26amp; all are great but ive only bought them for the action as the storylines SUCK.
I dont mind that much but was wondering if there actually is a good Martial Atrs film with a good story. ?
.
Is there a good Martial Arts film with a good story...........?
Ong-Bak, and the Martial Arts expert does all his own stunts.
As martial arts films go, this is one of the better ones :-)
Reply:No, they all suck!
Reply:almost anything with Jet li is pretty good i think. just saw fearless.... thought it was great. just go to imdb.com and type in Jet Li. or theres things like crouching tiger hidden dragon, house of flying daggers... things like that.... they never bore me. same thing here.... just go to imdb.... type in one of these movies.... and just click on one of the actors names.... sure itll bring up some good ones.
Reply:Try "drunken master" Reasonable story %26amp; funny!
Reply:The Touch, starring Michelle Yeoh.
I personally like it alot and I watched it 3 times.
Reply:Kung Fu Hustle is pretty good. Not sure if it's a true martial arts film though.
Reply:I watched House of Flying Daggers last night. The plots ok, the fight
parts and choreography are incredible. Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon is good too.
The Karate Kid is king though, 'cause it's got Mr Miagi.
Reply:I have always considered 'Enter the Dragon' the best of the Bruce Lee films. Also I saw one of his films in Paris a long time ago think it was called the Green something.and as I recall was a send-up of Batman type superheroes.
You can also get DVDs of the old TV series The Water Margins. The special effects are dated but still a very enjoyable version of the Chinese classic book. Romanticised outlaws similar to Robin Hood
The 'Monkey' series is also available and is more humorous. Irrepressible describes Monkey very well.
Reply:(#Choke cough splutter#) CROUCHING TIGER, HIDDEN DRAGON???
Reply:A bittersweet life,its not really a martial arts film strictly speaking though, most of em have no story line or are just plain silly
Reply:Please try "Paque de Loup" it is
a French movie,
but very special... Aaron.
Reply:Well I did see one called hong fooy tong Wong.
Storeys starts off 1 man surrounded by 60 men, he does a back somersault up into the tree, 60 ft high as well.
they all lob bricks at him, he jumps down amazingly takes out 10 men, one man approaches from behind and wacks him in the nuts as hard as he could, Chinese man shakes his head sweating profusely. Jumps in the air and does a 180 % turn this time taking out 20 men trying to catch up here, subtitles are a little behind.
Then he does a handspring continuously in a circle taking out every man in his way, all are trying to attack him but they keeps missing, sound affects are amazing,wahhhhh,huhhhhhhh.uhhhhhhhka ching.
There only one men still alive.
Him vs the master, he pulls out a gun and shoots him, none of this fooy wooy karate chopping.
Reply:Dragon Tiger Gate
Reply:Fearless is totally awesome; brilliant fighting, great story and good acting. All you need!!
Reply:Crouching Tiger Hidden Dragon
Fearless ( Great story )
Shogun Assassin
Zatoichi ( Very good )
Reply:unleashed
Reply:Ong Bak (Thai movie with Tony Jaa who is AMAZING - all his own stunts and great extras on the 2-disc DVD)
House of Flying Daggers - utterly beautiful with great fight scenes.
Crouching Tiger of course.
Hard Boiled isn't bad either and Bangkok Dangerous is okay but the above three are the best of the lot, enjoy!
Reply:Crying Freeman Marc Damascus
What is the best martial arts to learn for a man age 48?
I'd like to get into Martial arts at the age of 48. I had training in judo at 21.....but stopped. Is it too late to learn? What would be the best art to learn?
What is the best martial arts to learn for a man age 48?
Tai Chi. Some may think that sounds silly but there are martial applications to tai chi that are applicable to other martial arts or any physical movements. You have to join a good school though. The physical, mental, and emotional benefits are amazing.
I don't recommend tai chi just because you are forty-eight. You could definitely, depending on your current physical condition, do something more physically demanding. I just like it because is works on all dimensions of your health.
Reply:What about Tai Chi?
Reply:Taekwando.
Reply:i liked tae kwon do. I remember a man being in his 60's just starting.
Reply:Tai-Chi. it is slow and is basically stretching until you get into the advanced stuff. my uncle does Tai-Chi and is in his early fifties but does all of the sword twirling stuff
Reply:Try Tai chi. Its not rough, its soft, yet strong on the same time. Lots of M'sians practice Tai chi.
Chi gong is not bad too.
Reply:Its never too late to learn, certainly not at the age of 48, your still young.
Try anything, personally I do boxing and kickboxing and I enjoy these very much. I have tried others such as karate etc, too much pondering about learning routines for my liking, rather than training and getting involved in some good action.
Goodluck with whatever it is you choose.
Reply:Yes, Tai Chi is good, and may I suggest Aikido...like most martial arts, as I have trained in Karate, you take the fight to your opponent, whereas Tai Chi and Aikido, you don't...and as Mr. Lee had said, it's not the art OF fighting, but NOT to fight. Check those out, and maybe you'll understand what I meant...now go train hard, and eat healthy.
What is the best martial arts to learn for a man age 48?
Tai Chi. Some may think that sounds silly but there are martial applications to tai chi that are applicable to other martial arts or any physical movements. You have to join a good school though. The physical, mental, and emotional benefits are amazing.
I don't recommend tai chi just because you are forty-eight. You could definitely, depending on your current physical condition, do something more physically demanding. I just like it because is works on all dimensions of your health.
Reply:What about Tai Chi?
Reply:Taekwando.
Reply:i liked tae kwon do. I remember a man being in his 60's just starting.
Reply:Tai-Chi. it is slow and is basically stretching until you get into the advanced stuff. my uncle does Tai-Chi and is in his early fifties but does all of the sword twirling stuff
Reply:Try Tai chi. Its not rough, its soft, yet strong on the same time. Lots of M'sians practice Tai chi.
Chi gong is not bad too.
Reply:Its never too late to learn, certainly not at the age of 48, your still young.
Try anything, personally I do boxing and kickboxing and I enjoy these very much. I have tried others such as karate etc, too much pondering about learning routines for my liking, rather than training and getting involved in some good action.
Goodluck with whatever it is you choose.
Reply:Yes, Tai Chi is good, and may I suggest Aikido...like most martial arts, as I have trained in Karate, you take the fight to your opponent, whereas Tai Chi and Aikido, you don't...and as Mr. Lee had said, it's not the art OF fighting, but NOT to fight. Check those out, and maybe you'll understand what I meant...now go train hard, and eat healthy.
Monday, November 16, 2009
What has happened to the martial arts?
i look at martial arts today and 90% is xma(gymnastics, acrobatics). personally i love watching it, but at the same time I find less and less traditional MA classes. altho there are some good aspects of xma, a lot of the real application is being lost along with tradition. Ok i'm not saying there arent any xma people that can fight but i mean they try to make everything fancy, not effective. I know that xma adds some aspects to the art, but i believe it takes away more than it adds. A lot of times MA are refered to by people as sports, they shouldnt be sports now, they are arts, people have just turned them into sports. The meaning and skill level of a black belt has become so degraded from what it used to be. Comparing XMA to traditional MA is like comparing WWE to wrestling or even like comparing the harlem globetrotters to an NBA team. Also to many people buy their belts now, they dont earn them. America has an "I want it now" attitude. I see so many classes that if u pay u progress
What has happened to the martial arts?
this is just some of my thoughts on the matter. so take them with a grain of salt.
before when people learn martial arts they learned it because that was a way of life and if they did not know how to fight then they were dead. Also when they trained they were representing their teacher.
meaning that they really did not pay money for their training but they were srevants to the master.
now a days people go to a place and they think because they give money to the teacher or sensi that he owes them and they do not care about the dojo or the sensi as long as they think they are moving up.
As for me. (I take Shorei ryu) the school has been around for a while and the Sensi is very good and we work for everything. However i have heard storys that back in the day the two guys that started the school were very good but the were very strict.
one of them would try and make it so that you did not want to go back. Now if someone was that strict then people whould do one of two things.
1. they would not want to put in the work and get somehthing real out of it and would instead go to a place that tells them they can get a black belt in two years.
2. they see it as they were getting picked on and they would find a way to sue them and some way win.
Now the XMA'S are fun to watch and there are good martial artist that are in them.
they do it to have fun and it is a good way to bring people in. i know that most of the people that you bring in because they have seen the XMA'S are going to stick with it or are the people that are people that want a black belt in two years.
However there are going to be that handful of people that you bring in that if you are a good school you are going to get them to reliaze that the XMA'S are just one of the many things you could do with your training and that the martial arts is far better the XMA'S.
Reply:Amen!
I am a strong traditionalist and, personally, I am not interested in even watching xma or the sport ma. That is my preference.
I would rather watch a traditionally done Form. I believe I have said that I love Forms. In one Dojo they wanted to teach me "competition" Forms, with all the flash and dance and use me to win trophies for them.
I refused. Most of these competition Forms do not make any sense! Those who like flash say "ohhhhhhhhhhhh" and "aaaaaahhhhhh" and old traditionalists like me say "that made no sense!" or "that would not work!"
I do not have a single problem with those who compete in sport ma's as long as they state clearly what it is: sport.
I also agree that the preponderance of sport ma is causing a loss of the traditional martial arts. People want that flash and dance, applause and accolade. Some traditionalists are turning from the traditions, new students are seeking out the sport ma's.
I left one Dojang because it went "sport". Sabunim decided that he wanted his school to earn trophies and the money and accord that goes along with it. I politely said goodbye to him, bowed properly, and walked out.
I believe that the sport ma's focus is not the sort of training that takes years and years to earn that blackbelt. All they teach is learn-it-fast technique.
Most people do not "get" that a truly traditional martial artist does not NEED the applause and accolade.
Reply:No shitman it should be what its called "traditional martial arts"
Reply:Great question. I think two things (there are others, but these seem to stick out to me right now) are that: 1) the lack of great, noticeable figures in martial arts and 2) some Western ideals have diluted very technical methods of self-defense into generic forms of "karate".
People still associate MA with people like Bruce Lee and Jet Li, rather than watching modern-day martial arts competitions (Olympic Taekwondo anyone?). The traditions and forms that come with martial arts are lost to many who just look to know how to defend themselves or fight other people.
I totally agree with the fact that the honor and meaning to a black belt has become diluted, with very young children getting black belts without even understanding what it means. There are so many places that teach "Jujitsu" or "Taekwondo" when they only teach some generic punches, stances, and forms that are not rooted in the philosophy and art of the MA. Westernized forms of martial arts stress getting fit and protecting yourself, rather than understanding the "art" part.
People like Billy Blanks teaching taebo doesn't help either. @_@
Reply:We live in an interesting time. If you live in a city, it's likely that your body only makes 90 degree turns, and your body only gets a small percent of training in its possibilities. You walk on dependable hard surfaces, you rarely ward off flying branches, when was the most recent time you crawled much? So combine that with the further limiting/expanding results of lots of tv (it narrows your habitual left-right eye moves, which makes you habitually fearful...that's my opinion; and it expands your credulity as to what's possible, ie, kung fu guys leaping from trampolines in films, etc) so you're ripe for gymnastics or whatever training
passes for martial arts.
There aren't any real mysteries in the arts, not if you research and practice enough. Machiavelli even has a great section on which he details how warriors from various Italian cities trained in his time. Martial artists will find his description very familiar!
There are old African training methods, mostly lost, that held a lot of practical lore. what we call martial arts was old and extremely well developed in
Sparta...they started boys out by moving them out from their homes and training them seven hours a day until they were, I think, 40. Don't mess with guys like that,or Davy Crocket, or an old-time bareknuckle fighter: they wren't in it for show, they were in it to kill you. (so am I)
And that's what happened to the martial arts. Look: if you were born in brutal times, your dad insisted you learn to fight. So did you MOM! who was, by the way, my first gloves-on sparring partner.
So maybe you learned a trick here, from an older guy who knew one or two, and you treasured it. And maybe you figured out another. And pretty soon you had a few 'secrets' that got you out of trouble in a bar or in an alley or somewhere else. That's the original tradition, and eventually somebody had an accumulation of twenty or thirty 'tricks' and found that to remember and to be quick enough he had to practice, which usually meant linking them together...does this begin to sound familiar? Some of my Chinese friends used to tell me that the sacred t'ai ch'i had in its original form....twelve moves! Big whoop. Except it was better than anything else, and people added to it.
So what happened? well...did you learn to ride a bicycle with training wheels? did you wear a helmet? I'm trying to tell you something: your world is different than the one I grew up in. No training wheels, no helmet until I got into the Army. Lots of fights in school and out of it, and it was OK: guys were expected to settle things this way. I did, and I kept learning, and not liking to fight but liking to win...that's the difference! got me thru lots of judo and karate and Special Forces and...sixteen years of pretty heavy body-thumping boxing/wrestling/karate training when I was already too damned old for it. And I gotta say, I looked in many towns and many many dojos before I found who I was looking for.
Because I'm not interested in the belts, although I have quite a few now, and I'm not interested in the uniforms, and I want nothing to do with a sparring match where somebody ELSE tells you to start and stop and tells you who won...I can tell you it's all about winning when you need it. And many contemporary dojos and methods will teach you 'self-defense'...or 'defensive arts' and that's not where it is either. The whole game is to develop so you can beat everybody you are apt to ever combat, ever. Yes, I know: it's impossible to get to that level, probably, but that's the goal. Read Musashi sometime. He's pretty clear about it. So am I.
And that's VERY difficult to teach, and it's VERY difficult to create an area and atmosphere where you can practice, seriously, and not lose your timing from going too soft or easy or slow or...it's easier to go wrong than it is to go right.
You probably won't find real training in the phone book.
But you can get to be a 'black belt' ...whattever THAT means...
in a year at some tai kwon do parlors, and others. I'm not denigrating what they learn, nor do I laugh too hard at seven year olds who got their black belt...I used to teach those kinds of black belts how to fight, and some of them actually learned something.
So really, any kind of training is good: it's just like this...you know that it takes about ten years for a guy to become a decent lawyer, or plumber, or anything. Why would it be any diferent with the most important interpersonal survival skill there is?
So the problem is that the marial arts academies teach a curriculum, and they charge you for the lessons, much of which could be useful, but what YOU want is combat capability, which can only be gained through EXPERIENCE...and since even people who think of themselves as street brawlers par excellence will usually only have maybe two minutes' worth of real fight experience in several years...so YOUR problem is to find somewhere and somehow that you can get some realistic training that won't cost you your eyes, teeth, and balls before you get any capability.
It's rare, but it's there. The best guy I know in this country is pretty much retired, but he put up with me for 16 years and batted, choked, and pinned and threw my ears back any time he felt like it. Which is OK: I returned the favorwhenver I could and to a LOT of other people during the same time and since. But ol' Roy is mighty rare...you could send him an email at lonfu.com. Or join the service, get into the Rangers, and when you get to Smoke Bomb hill in Special Forces start your own club. That's what I did. But once again: you have to be careful. REmember what crybabies do when they get a lawyer...
Reply:Comercialism has made huge inroads but there are still schools where Martial Arts are still taught the traditional way. They are harder to find because tha comercial schools to so much more to attract attention.
Reply:Good martial arts is still out there...
The problem is that a lot of people are calling themselves teachers who only want to make a buck and a lot of people are getting into martial arts just because they want to learn how to fight.
Meanwhile, the (for want of a better term) "authentic" disciplines go quietly on their way without making a lot of noise or getting much publicity.
Reply:I absoultly agree. Dont get me wrong, the gymnastics is fun, but they shouldnt teach you it at a dojo. If you want to learn flips you sould go to a gymnastics place or ask a trustful instructor to help you with some...if you want to laern. I think karate has changed beacuse no one wants to have a strict hard enviroment anymore. They just want to look good at whatever they are doing!
Reply:anything that wont save your @ss isnt worth while. Dancing wont save you either.
even tradition for traditions sake is lame. move with the times, or stay in the dark ages. if you have learned all you can where you are at, why are you still there? not for martial development, but perhaps the fame of being the best one at your dojo?
Reply:i do agree that xma has taken to much away from MA, but at the same time, i do see why MA are becoming more of a sport. With modern weapons such as guns, and so many people having the with them at all times, knowing how to do a roundhouse kick to defend yourself isnt as important. I do see the importance of knowing how to defend yourself in hand to hand combat, and i myself am a 1st Dan yellow first in the gaurdian black belt style of tae kwon do. i (unfortnately, i didnt know it when i started, im looking for a new school) belong to a school where many people buy their belts, and it disgusts me. i personally make sure i know everything i need to know, and i can do it as perfectly as i possibly can before i test. As a green belt, i could already out perform half the black belts in my school, its terrible. as a teenage black belt, i am as good if not better than some of the second and third degree black belt 20 and 30 year old students in my dojo.
Reply:This a great question.I agree about what you said about extreme martial arts but it is the sign of the times.People watch a Jet Li movie with all that cable work and cg and think that is what it is all about.That's why you have the extreme martial art competitions.The reason why you have the UFC,although I do enjoy it,people do not want to put in the work to understand the art of self defense they just want to fight and that is what martial arts is not.It is these types of attitudes that is destroying martial arts.I know as martial artist we must evolve and adapt,in fact that is the true mark of martial art expert but the new needs to be incorporated with the old not replace it.I still use traditional techniques in kumite and I am successful in doing so.In fact some of the younger students still don't understand how,as they say your" simple techniques" are so effective.Especially when they train for hours to learn some new acrobatic kick.So do not be afraid of the new but definitely keep the old.
Reply:Yeah I kinda partly agree with you. It's pretty hard to find a traditional martial art dojo in America. Xma is not trying to be able to fight and being effective as you say. It's displaying their flexibility and talent. The misuse of ma I find today is in mma tournaments.
What has happened to the martial arts?
this is just some of my thoughts on the matter. so take them with a grain of salt.
before when people learn martial arts they learned it because that was a way of life and if they did not know how to fight then they were dead. Also when they trained they were representing their teacher.
meaning that they really did not pay money for their training but they were srevants to the master.
now a days people go to a place and they think because they give money to the teacher or sensi that he owes them and they do not care about the dojo or the sensi as long as they think they are moving up.
As for me. (I take Shorei ryu) the school has been around for a while and the Sensi is very good and we work for everything. However i have heard storys that back in the day the two guys that started the school were very good but the were very strict.
one of them would try and make it so that you did not want to go back. Now if someone was that strict then people whould do one of two things.
1. they would not want to put in the work and get somehthing real out of it and would instead go to a place that tells them they can get a black belt in two years.
2. they see it as they were getting picked on and they would find a way to sue them and some way win.
Now the XMA'S are fun to watch and there are good martial artist that are in them.
they do it to have fun and it is a good way to bring people in. i know that most of the people that you bring in because they have seen the XMA'S are going to stick with it or are the people that are people that want a black belt in two years.
However there are going to be that handful of people that you bring in that if you are a good school you are going to get them to reliaze that the XMA'S are just one of the many things you could do with your training and that the martial arts is far better the XMA'S.
Reply:Amen!
I am a strong traditionalist and, personally, I am not interested in even watching xma or the sport ma. That is my preference.
I would rather watch a traditionally done Form. I believe I have said that I love Forms. In one Dojo they wanted to teach me "competition" Forms, with all the flash and dance and use me to win trophies for them.
I refused. Most of these competition Forms do not make any sense! Those who like flash say "ohhhhhhhhhhhh" and "aaaaaahhhhhh" and old traditionalists like me say "that made no sense!" or "that would not work!"
I do not have a single problem with those who compete in sport ma's as long as they state clearly what it is: sport.
I also agree that the preponderance of sport ma is causing a loss of the traditional martial arts. People want that flash and dance, applause and accolade. Some traditionalists are turning from the traditions, new students are seeking out the sport ma's.
I left one Dojang because it went "sport". Sabunim decided that he wanted his school to earn trophies and the money and accord that goes along with it. I politely said goodbye to him, bowed properly, and walked out.
I believe that the sport ma's focus is not the sort of training that takes years and years to earn that blackbelt. All they teach is learn-it-fast technique.
Most people do not "get" that a truly traditional martial artist does not NEED the applause and accolade.
Reply:No shitman it should be what its called "traditional martial arts"
Reply:Great question. I think two things (there are others, but these seem to stick out to me right now) are that: 1) the lack of great, noticeable figures in martial arts and 2) some Western ideals have diluted very technical methods of self-defense into generic forms of "karate".
People still associate MA with people like Bruce Lee and Jet Li, rather than watching modern-day martial arts competitions (Olympic Taekwondo anyone?). The traditions and forms that come with martial arts are lost to many who just look to know how to defend themselves or fight other people.
I totally agree with the fact that the honor and meaning to a black belt has become diluted, with very young children getting black belts without even understanding what it means. There are so many places that teach "Jujitsu" or "Taekwondo" when they only teach some generic punches, stances, and forms that are not rooted in the philosophy and art of the MA. Westernized forms of martial arts stress getting fit and protecting yourself, rather than understanding the "art" part.
People like Billy Blanks teaching taebo doesn't help either. @_@
Reply:We live in an interesting time. If you live in a city, it's likely that your body only makes 90 degree turns, and your body only gets a small percent of training in its possibilities. You walk on dependable hard surfaces, you rarely ward off flying branches, when was the most recent time you crawled much? So combine that with the further limiting/expanding results of lots of tv (it narrows your habitual left-right eye moves, which makes you habitually fearful...that's my opinion; and it expands your credulity as to what's possible, ie, kung fu guys leaping from trampolines in films, etc) so you're ripe for gymnastics or whatever training
passes for martial arts.
There aren't any real mysteries in the arts, not if you research and practice enough. Machiavelli even has a great section on which he details how warriors from various Italian cities trained in his time. Martial artists will find his description very familiar!
There are old African training methods, mostly lost, that held a lot of practical lore. what we call martial arts was old and extremely well developed in
Sparta...they started boys out by moving them out from their homes and training them seven hours a day until they were, I think, 40. Don't mess with guys like that,or Davy Crocket, or an old-time bareknuckle fighter: they wren't in it for show, they were in it to kill you. (so am I)
And that's what happened to the martial arts. Look: if you were born in brutal times, your dad insisted you learn to fight. So did you MOM! who was, by the way, my first gloves-on sparring partner.
So maybe you learned a trick here, from an older guy who knew one or two, and you treasured it. And maybe you figured out another. And pretty soon you had a few 'secrets' that got you out of trouble in a bar or in an alley or somewhere else. That's the original tradition, and eventually somebody had an accumulation of twenty or thirty 'tricks' and found that to remember and to be quick enough he had to practice, which usually meant linking them together...does this begin to sound familiar? Some of my Chinese friends used to tell me that the sacred t'ai ch'i had in its original form....twelve moves! Big whoop. Except it was better than anything else, and people added to it.
So what happened? well...did you learn to ride a bicycle with training wheels? did you wear a helmet? I'm trying to tell you something: your world is different than the one I grew up in. No training wheels, no helmet until I got into the Army. Lots of fights in school and out of it, and it was OK: guys were expected to settle things this way. I did, and I kept learning, and not liking to fight but liking to win...that's the difference! got me thru lots of judo and karate and Special Forces and...sixteen years of pretty heavy body-thumping boxing/wrestling/karate training when I was already too damned old for it. And I gotta say, I looked in many towns and many many dojos before I found who I was looking for.
Because I'm not interested in the belts, although I have quite a few now, and I'm not interested in the uniforms, and I want nothing to do with a sparring match where somebody ELSE tells you to start and stop and tells you who won...I can tell you it's all about winning when you need it. And many contemporary dojos and methods will teach you 'self-defense'...or 'defensive arts' and that's not where it is either. The whole game is to develop so you can beat everybody you are apt to ever combat, ever. Yes, I know: it's impossible to get to that level, probably, but that's the goal. Read Musashi sometime. He's pretty clear about it. So am I.
And that's VERY difficult to teach, and it's VERY difficult to create an area and atmosphere where you can practice, seriously, and not lose your timing from going too soft or easy or slow or...it's easier to go wrong than it is to go right.
You probably won't find real training in the phone book.
But you can get to be a 'black belt' ...whattever THAT means...
in a year at some tai kwon do parlors, and others. I'm not denigrating what they learn, nor do I laugh too hard at seven year olds who got their black belt...I used to teach those kinds of black belts how to fight, and some of them actually learned something.
So really, any kind of training is good: it's just like this...you know that it takes about ten years for a guy to become a decent lawyer, or plumber, or anything. Why would it be any diferent with the most important interpersonal survival skill there is?
So the problem is that the marial arts academies teach a curriculum, and they charge you for the lessons, much of which could be useful, but what YOU want is combat capability, which can only be gained through EXPERIENCE...and since even people who think of themselves as street brawlers par excellence will usually only have maybe two minutes' worth of real fight experience in several years...so YOUR problem is to find somewhere and somehow that you can get some realistic training that won't cost you your eyes, teeth, and balls before you get any capability.
It's rare, but it's there. The best guy I know in this country is pretty much retired, but he put up with me for 16 years and batted, choked, and pinned and threw my ears back any time he felt like it. Which is OK: I returned the favorwhenver I could and to a LOT of other people during the same time and since. But ol' Roy is mighty rare...you could send him an email at lonfu.com. Or join the service, get into the Rangers, and when you get to Smoke Bomb hill in Special Forces start your own club. That's what I did. But once again: you have to be careful. REmember what crybabies do when they get a lawyer...
Reply:Comercialism has made huge inroads but there are still schools where Martial Arts are still taught the traditional way. They are harder to find because tha comercial schools to so much more to attract attention.
Reply:Good martial arts is still out there...
The problem is that a lot of people are calling themselves teachers who only want to make a buck and a lot of people are getting into martial arts just because they want to learn how to fight.
Meanwhile, the (for want of a better term) "authentic" disciplines go quietly on their way without making a lot of noise or getting much publicity.
Reply:I absoultly agree. Dont get me wrong, the gymnastics is fun, but they shouldnt teach you it at a dojo. If you want to learn flips you sould go to a gymnastics place or ask a trustful instructor to help you with some...if you want to laern. I think karate has changed beacuse no one wants to have a strict hard enviroment anymore. They just want to look good at whatever they are doing!
Reply:anything that wont save your @ss isnt worth while. Dancing wont save you either.
even tradition for traditions sake is lame. move with the times, or stay in the dark ages. if you have learned all you can where you are at, why are you still there? not for martial development, but perhaps the fame of being the best one at your dojo?
Reply:i do agree that xma has taken to much away from MA, but at the same time, i do see why MA are becoming more of a sport. With modern weapons such as guns, and so many people having the with them at all times, knowing how to do a roundhouse kick to defend yourself isnt as important. I do see the importance of knowing how to defend yourself in hand to hand combat, and i myself am a 1st Dan yellow first in the gaurdian black belt style of tae kwon do. i (unfortnately, i didnt know it when i started, im looking for a new school) belong to a school where many people buy their belts, and it disgusts me. i personally make sure i know everything i need to know, and i can do it as perfectly as i possibly can before i test. As a green belt, i could already out perform half the black belts in my school, its terrible. as a teenage black belt, i am as good if not better than some of the second and third degree black belt 20 and 30 year old students in my dojo.
Reply:This a great question.I agree about what you said about extreme martial arts but it is the sign of the times.People watch a Jet Li movie with all that cable work and cg and think that is what it is all about.That's why you have the extreme martial art competitions.The reason why you have the UFC,although I do enjoy it,people do not want to put in the work to understand the art of self defense they just want to fight and that is what martial arts is not.It is these types of attitudes that is destroying martial arts.I know as martial artist we must evolve and adapt,in fact that is the true mark of martial art expert but the new needs to be incorporated with the old not replace it.I still use traditional techniques in kumite and I am successful in doing so.In fact some of the younger students still don't understand how,as they say your" simple techniques" are so effective.Especially when they train for hours to learn some new acrobatic kick.So do not be afraid of the new but definitely keep the old.
Reply:Yeah I kinda partly agree with you. It's pretty hard to find a traditional martial art dojo in America. Xma is not trying to be able to fight and being effective as you say. It's displaying their flexibility and talent. The misuse of ma I find today is in mma tournaments.
"Family Style" vs. "business" martial arts?
Is there any systems that are taught anymore passed from father / mother to children. I have several children and am willing to pass on my knowledge at any point the want. I'd like to know that there are others who teach their children there ways of martial skills in this manner rather than going to a public dojo. Is this popular anymore? I'd like to talk with other parents who teach their families at home. I've talked with a few who claim there parents taught them martial arts but as yet I've never meet anyone who seemed to really have skill.
I personally, would love to pass on my knowledge to my children in this manner. What is your view on this?
"Family Style" vs. "business" martial arts?
I am a single dad of two lil girls ages three and two, and I have to say my three year old has one hell of a right cross, while my 2 year old gets down with the double front kick hahaha... can't help it as parents we want to teach our kids what we know... that just nature
Reply:I think its great teaching your kids yourself. That way you know they are learning the technics that they need to know. Also you can be more patient with them and if they need extra time to learn certain technics you are right there to help as opposed to them practicing what they think the technic is and then finding out it was all wrong the next time they go to class
Reply:My dad tried to teach my brother and I the martial arts after he returned from Thailand during the Vietnam War.
*My brother blew it off.
*I really enjoyed it.
*I guess I didn't "get" the sparring part, because I had my a$$ handed to me several times (i.e., sparring others, lifeguarding "issues", etc.).
**I saw my dad spar, and he was really quite good.
*I've tried out a few other martial arts since, and have been quite satisfied with it all.
*I spar now (at the dojo, and in tournaments), and I guess I've gotten a little better since the 1970's.
Insofar as teaching one's own kids:
*Please be PATIENT, they're not students, they're your own kids and require a different approach.
**If you screw this part up (i.e., too easy, boring, harsh, etc.), they'll never "take" to the art.
Have a nice weekend, I hope this helps.
(;=]
Reply:So what is stopping you? My daughter is only 4 so we play martial arts games (wrestling ect...) If she wants to join a dojo when she is old enough that would be great. I look at it like swiming. She dosen't have to join the swimming team, but she has to know enough not to drown.
Reply:This is actually a bit of a touchy subject. I have a friend of Chinese decent and his father wanted to teach him the family style, but my friend resisted. For what reason, I do not know, but when he attended classes where I was, he thrived.
What I have observed is that even though schools of Chinese martial arts have a "family feel" to them (that is, the sifu is regarded as a father and treated as such rather than a "master" in the sense of one in charge of another, as is the case in many other systems such as traditional Japanese styles), there is a distinction between a teacher/student role versus a parent/child role. The difficulty lies in distinguishing the two at first, but then going on to take on both roles while keeping them separate!
Personally, I will probably not teach my children when I have them (at least not as the sole teacher), but I will allow my contemporaries to do so and I will practice with them. Honestly, my fear is that I will be too hard on my children and perhaps expect too much of them, or else project my own aspirations onto them. It would be awesome to pass on my knowledge and my passion onto my children, but I wouldn't want to if they were just trying to make me happy with no genuine interest of their own. Should they choose to have me a teacher, I would do my best to wear two hats - one as father, and another separately as sifu. I will, though, teach my nieces and nephews when they are old enough since I do not see them on a daily basis.
Oddly enough, I suppose you could say I practice a family style: Hung Gar! That is, the system of the Hung family, but now we're splitting hairs...!
Reply:I think it's a great thing that you want to pass on your skill and knowledge to your children. I, personally, plan to do so when my son is old enough to understand what he's doing provided he has a desire to do it.
I would say don't push it on your kids as that may cause a bit of tension between you, but it can certainly be a wonderful experience that not all families can have.
My guess would be it is popular outside of the US but most people in the US don't have that feel for the tradition or end up falling away from their art and become those that know the style but never practice it. Because of this, they end up never considering teaching their kids.
I personally, would love to pass on my knowledge to my children in this manner. What is your view on this?
"Family Style" vs. "business" martial arts?
I am a single dad of two lil girls ages three and two, and I have to say my three year old has one hell of a right cross, while my 2 year old gets down with the double front kick hahaha... can't help it as parents we want to teach our kids what we know... that just nature
Reply:I think its great teaching your kids yourself. That way you know they are learning the technics that they need to know. Also you can be more patient with them and if they need extra time to learn certain technics you are right there to help as opposed to them practicing what they think the technic is and then finding out it was all wrong the next time they go to class
Reply:My dad tried to teach my brother and I the martial arts after he returned from Thailand during the Vietnam War.
*My brother blew it off.
*I really enjoyed it.
*I guess I didn't "get" the sparring part, because I had my a$$ handed to me several times (i.e., sparring others, lifeguarding "issues", etc.).
**I saw my dad spar, and he was really quite good.
*I've tried out a few other martial arts since, and have been quite satisfied with it all.
*I spar now (at the dojo, and in tournaments), and I guess I've gotten a little better since the 1970's.
Insofar as teaching one's own kids:
*Please be PATIENT, they're not students, they're your own kids and require a different approach.
**If you screw this part up (i.e., too easy, boring, harsh, etc.), they'll never "take" to the art.
Have a nice weekend, I hope this helps.
(;=]
Reply:So what is stopping you? My daughter is only 4 so we play martial arts games (wrestling ect...) If she wants to join a dojo when she is old enough that would be great. I look at it like swiming. She dosen't have to join the swimming team, but she has to know enough not to drown.
Reply:This is actually a bit of a touchy subject. I have a friend of Chinese decent and his father wanted to teach him the family style, but my friend resisted. For what reason, I do not know, but when he attended classes where I was, he thrived.
What I have observed is that even though schools of Chinese martial arts have a "family feel" to them (that is, the sifu is regarded as a father and treated as such rather than a "master" in the sense of one in charge of another, as is the case in many other systems such as traditional Japanese styles), there is a distinction between a teacher/student role versus a parent/child role. The difficulty lies in distinguishing the two at first, but then going on to take on both roles while keeping them separate!
Personally, I will probably not teach my children when I have them (at least not as the sole teacher), but I will allow my contemporaries to do so and I will practice with them. Honestly, my fear is that I will be too hard on my children and perhaps expect too much of them, or else project my own aspirations onto them. It would be awesome to pass on my knowledge and my passion onto my children, but I wouldn't want to if they were just trying to make me happy with no genuine interest of their own. Should they choose to have me a teacher, I would do my best to wear two hats - one as father, and another separately as sifu. I will, though, teach my nieces and nephews when they are old enough since I do not see them on a daily basis.
Oddly enough, I suppose you could say I practice a family style: Hung Gar! That is, the system of the Hung family, but now we're splitting hairs...!
Reply:I think it's a great thing that you want to pass on your skill and knowledge to your children. I, personally, plan to do so when my son is old enough to understand what he's doing provided he has a desire to do it.
I would say don't push it on your kids as that may cause a bit of tension between you, but it can certainly be a wonderful experience that not all families can have.
My guess would be it is popular outside of the US but most people in the US don't have that feel for the tradition or end up falling away from their art and become those that know the style but never practice it. Because of this, they end up never considering teaching their kids.
Marine corps. martial arts program ?
can somebody ( preferably current or veteran marines ) explain the marine corps. martial arts program to me ? i know that you earn a tan belt during boot camp, but how do you progress and take higher belt courses ? can you become and instructor if your an enlisted marine or do you have to be an officer ?
Marine corps. martial arts program ?
The current system used is called MCMAP, Marine Corps Martial Arts System. This replaced the earlier system of L.I.N.E. (Linear Infighting Neural Override Engagement) ended in 1998. The argument was that the earlier system was strictly geared towards death of the enemy and the new system allows you to cripple prior to killing. You are right that it is taught in boot camp as a mandatory class for all recruits, male at least as far as I know. After boot camp you will not get a chance to progress until you get to a unit. I'm sure you can guess that the infantry field will have the most chances to progress to higher levels. I forgot the colors but the next level can be attained by going to a class on it, this is the same for green belt (the next level). You taking courses all depends on your command and how many slots they have open for kung fu, get used to calling it that you'll find out later why. Enlisted can become instructors and all instructors I knew were enlisted. There was only one officer and he was prior enlisted and got instructor status while enlisted. The first instructor class available is green belt instructor and the school is reserved for E-4 and above.
As far as the system itself, get ready to do body hardening, where you and a buddy judo chop each other in different bodily areas for hours at a time. Yeah it could get old quickly. Proper throws, landing and recovering from throws is covered. Manipulation of joints is covered as well, not the ones you're smoking now. And of course how to end a fight in a combat environment is covered. The program has deep wrestling roots. Hope this explains it, feel free to give me a shout if you got more questions.
Reply:You can be enlisted. I dont know the details but you could contact someone that is in that program.
Reply:You can take higher courses at your MOS school (if long enough) or at your unit. This will include remedial training of your current belt, ie tan. Then you will learn the grey belt moves: ie: hip throws, more advance striking techniques, baton usage, etc. Then you test for your belt. As a green belt (must be a Lcpl or above), brown belt or black belt (must be a Sgt or above to train for black belt), you have the option of becoming an instructor. For black belt, I believe there is 5 degrees or so. The degrees in black belt requires a specific rank but I don't remember them.
Reply:Hello Warchemy. Glad in your interest in the MCMAP. In the MCMAP program you progress by training. To qualify for a higher belt you need to have a certain number of training hours. Also almost all belts need recommendations from a reporting senior Non Commissioned or Commissioned officer. Yes, Enlisted Marines can become instructors. Once you achieve you're Grey Belt you can take additional training to become a martial arts instructor. You then receive a secondary MOS of 0916. You can train Marines up to you're current belt level, and certify Marines up to one belt lower.
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Marine corps. martial arts program ?
The current system used is called MCMAP, Marine Corps Martial Arts System. This replaced the earlier system of L.I.N.E. (Linear Infighting Neural Override Engagement) ended in 1998. The argument was that the earlier system was strictly geared towards death of the enemy and the new system allows you to cripple prior to killing. You are right that it is taught in boot camp as a mandatory class for all recruits, male at least as far as I know. After boot camp you will not get a chance to progress until you get to a unit. I'm sure you can guess that the infantry field will have the most chances to progress to higher levels. I forgot the colors but the next level can be attained by going to a class on it, this is the same for green belt (the next level). You taking courses all depends on your command and how many slots they have open for kung fu, get used to calling it that you'll find out later why. Enlisted can become instructors and all instructors I knew were enlisted. There was only one officer and he was prior enlisted and got instructor status while enlisted. The first instructor class available is green belt instructor and the school is reserved for E-4 and above.
As far as the system itself, get ready to do body hardening, where you and a buddy judo chop each other in different bodily areas for hours at a time. Yeah it could get old quickly. Proper throws, landing and recovering from throws is covered. Manipulation of joints is covered as well, not the ones you're smoking now. And of course how to end a fight in a combat environment is covered. The program has deep wrestling roots. Hope this explains it, feel free to give me a shout if you got more questions.
Reply:You can be enlisted. I dont know the details but you could contact someone that is in that program.
Reply:You can take higher courses at your MOS school (if long enough) or at your unit. This will include remedial training of your current belt, ie tan. Then you will learn the grey belt moves: ie: hip throws, more advance striking techniques, baton usage, etc. Then you test for your belt. As a green belt (must be a Lcpl or above), brown belt or black belt (must be a Sgt or above to train for black belt), you have the option of becoming an instructor. For black belt, I believe there is 5 degrees or so. The degrees in black belt requires a specific rank but I don't remember them.
Reply:Hello Warchemy. Glad in your interest in the MCMAP. In the MCMAP program you progress by training. To qualify for a higher belt you need to have a certain number of training hours. Also almost all belts need recommendations from a reporting senior Non Commissioned or Commissioned officer. Yes, Enlisted Marines can become instructors. Once you achieve you're Grey Belt you can take additional training to become a martial arts instructor. You then receive a secondary MOS of 0916. You can train Marines up to you're current belt level, and certify Marines up to one belt lower.
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